QuoteI don't think they play GSTQ at Lansdowne rugby games anyway, could be wrong though...
At least according to the heading in today's Herald. Won't have effect on soccer (but if we draw England I suspect FIFA would have a rule about it) but rugby - now, they may have problems. Or maybe it's just the Herald stirring it.
I don't think they play GSTQ at Lansdowne rugby games anyway, could be wrong though...
The Herald have a bad habit of controversial one-liners to sell their afternoon editions - they usually have nothing else in them but the Small ads !
"Inflatable hammers and Leprechaun suits, & a chorus of "Here we go" or Olé, Olé"....
Yeah, they do. I remember in my local for the most recent Ireland-England game the oul' fella's telling the barman to lower it down.Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Oh they do surely, what else would they play for Inguurland
Do England rugby teams not play Swing Low, Sweet Chariot?
Anyway, I read the story on my lunch (I didn't buy that miserable rag, I read it while queueing up) and there's absolutely nothing in it. They ask Sean Kelly will the GAA put on a ban on English national anthems and flags in Croker, Kelly doesn't say yes or no, he doesn't get into it.
If England come here to play rugby, whatever anthem they have will be played in Croker, I'm sure of it. From personal experience, don't trust one word you read in the Evening Herald.
ya they always play it at the rugby. i remember being there that time they wouldnt move, and that fooken song made the hairs stand on the back of me neck and shiver.
no harm if it is true, i brought this up on another site, i dont think it should be played nor the flag flown. the english will really hate that.
fifa would also have to make an exception i reckon
no, only the fans sing that swing low carry-on
How would you feel if we played a game in England and they said that they couldn't fly the tricolour or play Amhran na bhFiann because the IRA had merrily bombed its way around England for the past 30 years?
Give me a break. If England happen to play a game here, they've got a right to hear their national anthem as much as we do.
Well no problem with Advance Australia Fair, and it's lines about Britannia ruling the waves, how great those under the Union Flag were, how they keep a British soul etc.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
In 1990 when we played England at Lansdowne Road in a Euro 92 qualifer, there was no English anthem played. When we travelled to Wembley in March 1991 for the return game, there was no Irish anthem played there. There was always an agreement between the English FA and the FAI that only the home anthem's would be played. That was until Big Jack complained.
Can you remember the night of the riot in Lansdowne when God saved the Queen was played - remember the booing from the entire Irish crowd towards it.
That's not my recollection at all. In fact I thought it was noticeable that it was a clear, albeit audible, minority. Predominantly from the Sth Terrace. Nobody near me on the Nth Terrace booed.
There was a mutually poisonous atmosphere at the 1990 game but there was a much more receptive / friendly mood among the Irish at the '95 game.
I always bang on to my English mates how we respect other teams' anthems, even theirs. But I got out the tape of the Euro '88 game in stuttgart a few years ago and the booing of GSTQ was really loud!
My memory is that A na bhF was played at Wembley and there was no such agreement according to the English FA and they were unhappy that GSTQ was not played in Dublin.
There was an agreement from 88-93 when we played Northern Ireland.
Most of the neanderthals opposed to opening Croke Park reckon GSTQ is the national anthem for the Irish teams in football and rugby anyway.
they should be allowed play their anthem and fly their flag.
if the same was being done to ireland and the tricolour, we`d be outraged and crying bigotry...
The Irish anthem was played at Wembley that night, I was there too. The following day in the papers, Jack was slated as he mimed along to the words and was called a traitor.
Stuttgart in 88, yes GSTQ was booed with great intensity and they didnt like the favour being returned to them as they had booed everyones for years.
Still we're all friends now, in Europe and all.
I think in the event of drawing England, they should have their anthem played, wave their flags and then let the lads on the pitch set about trying to beat them at football - not politics.
I suppose though, its never as clear cut as that.
Ade
I can remember when the IRFU only played out own anthem at Lansdowne Road and never the away team's. I can remember this was so in 1991, because Ireland were playing Australia and no Ozzie anthem was played. I'm not sure when that rule was lifted.
I can imagine a lot of GAA people will hate hearing GTSQ at Croker, but it's time for them to bury the hatchet and wake up. I don't like hearing that anthem either, but it's their anthem and they should be allowed to play it.
Our anthem was definately played at Wembley cos I remember singing it.
Whatever about GSTQ being played at the England rugby matches, the IRFU only play our own anthem now and again, which is a joke. That pathetic 'Irelands Call' is the biggest load of PC bull**** that i've ever seen. If the likes of David Humphries don't want\like to stand for it, they should go and play for England. He's wearing green, playing for the shamrock, in Dublin........what do they expect like?
If England ever play at Croker, their anthem has to be played and flags flown. The rugby crowd would insist on it. They're very la-di-da regarding these things in rugby land. The term 'fan rivalry' doesn't exist in rugby. Soccer is a different scenario though. I doubt if England would even get a ticket allocation for a game in Dublin, and FIFA\UEFA could even insist themselves that no anthem be played
Lads, when the cities of England were living in terror from the next IRA bomb, a lot of normal, decent Irish people in those cities got battered for it and were made to feel ashamed of something they had nothing to do with. The English fans coming over to watch a game of rugby or soccer aren't members of the Black and Tans that murdered those innocent people on Bloody Sunday. And they're not the paratroopers that killed innocent Derry people on the next Bloody Sunday. And they're not Oliver Cromwell, Randolph Churchill, Winston Churchill, Lloyd George, Bonar Law, Basil Brooke, Edward Carson, Brian Faulkner or Margaret Thatcher either. They've got a scumbag contingent, sure, but otherwise they're decent people with a right to sing their anthem if we're singing ours. Hate the government and fume over the history books, sure, but leave that at the door when going to watch a game of football.
The sooner Irish people realise that the Irish and the English are inter-related, the better.
Looks like eveyone agrees, we're going to let them have he anthem in Crokers. There's really no point in any more posts unless someone doesn't want to let them have GSTQ.
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