Dundalk 1 Limerick 0

**gael353** · 21/04/2005, 9:11 PM

I wasn�t at the game due to this stupid Thursday night thing but got a few texts etc. We seemed to be on top for most of the game with the two lads up front doing well. It was all long balls though which I�m not happy about. Donellen missed a sitter of a header from was it three feet or three inches? Dundalk went down the field and should have got a penalty. On eighty minutes a Dundalk corner hit someone and went straight in, aertel says it was McCarthy. We have now 6 points from a possible 21 this is not good and is quite frankly, re-election form.
Team: Mooney, O�Mahoney, Tobin, Finnucane, Wolfe, Kerins, Molan, Barrett, Donellan, McCarthy (O�Brien 85) Kelleher (Stokes 85)

Yes I�m not joking about the two subs, that isn�t a typo.

There are better players in the squad IMO then what we�re playing with. Keith Harnett, Ross Cosgrave, Dave Ryan, Timmy Lynch, Mick Aherne and some might say two good goalkeepers too.

**maineman** · 21/04/2005, 10:03 PM

Very disappointing indeed,as you said 6pts is a poor return surely it's time these players got there chance.

**gspain** · 22/04/2005, 7:21 AM

Very very disappointing. well worth at least a point. Dominated much of the 2nd half. Should have had a stonewall penalty although Dundalk had claims too (theirs looked a foul but may have been outside the box ref gave nothing, ours was a definite one).

Terrible goal to give away - ball whizzed across the 6 yard box from a corner and Noel Mooney never claimed it, seemed to go in after a scramble - given as an own goal but then credited to Ger McCarthy.

Good approach play but we didn't really look like scoring despite some clear cut chances.

**Daydreamer** · 22/04/2005, 10:19 AM

Terrible result these are the kinda teams that we really need to be beating
if we are to get a run going ,noc needs to bring mike ahern and ross c in to
the team ...long journey home last with a very disappointed car load of lads..

**Lim till i die** · 22/04/2005, 10:27 AM

One nil down in the 85th minute taking off Derek and Robbie and bringing on the other two is quite frakly SCANDOLOUS management Noel needs to get his head out of his arse and bring back Mick and Keith Hartnett. Also were the Limerick fans who travelled to Sligo the only ones who noticed when you keep the ball on the ground in this division you dominate teams. We're capable of it so why not do it

**Daydreamer** · 22/04/2005, 10:40 AM

have to agree with you about the ball on the ground 2 many times
this season the ball has been floating over our 2 centre midfield
men with the hope that robbie can get on the end of it,cos as we know ,cp had no intention on following it..

**sadloserkid** · 22/04/2005, 11:23 AM

Eoin Conlon came off the bench as well according to Aertel. Mike Ahearne was on the bench but not used. Can't pass comment on the game as I wasn't there but all season I think we've been desperately short on ideas in the final third. It really does seem that we're relying on moments of individual brilliance to pull us out of a hole.

We look much more dangerous when the ball is played to the wingers feet and they're allowed to run at people (though even then Nolan tends to over-do it at times and Kearns hasn't really impressed me yet) but our 'tactic' seems to be a case of boot the ball in the general direction of the opposition goal and hope for favourable breaks a lot of the time.

We clearly have some very talented individuals playing for us but there seems to be a lack of an overall plan there sometimes.

**Daydreamer** · 22/04/2005, 11:59 AM

in fairness to the lads they did play alot of good football last night,game should have been over after 60 or 70 minutes, but the old cliche if u dont take
your chances u get punished,and the og by wolfe just proved that,

**deise deserter** · 22/04/2005, 1:30 PM

Once again:

GET MICK AHERNE BACK IN THE STARTING LINE UP!

It is crazy that a player who improved so much over the course of last year is sidelined in such a way. The clock is ticking for NOC - people haven't put money into the club to see the poor football he insists on playing.

**anto1208** · 22/04/2005, 2:21 PM

i thought this was the answer to all ye're prayers having noc come in and take over .

im sure ye know why mick aherne wont get in the team while noc is in charge & he wont get sacked since he owns some of the club , which will lead to a lot more problems the 2 should be seperate owners cant be managers it does nt work .

**4tothefloor** · 22/04/2005, 7:45 PM

Originally Posted by sadloserkid

We clearly have some very talented individuals playing for us but there seems to be a lack of an overall plan there sometimes.

Ya, it's called tactics. Limerick remind me of a junior team, hoofing their way through the game and working off of second breaks and percentages.

The honeymoon period will be over in a few weeks, that's when the fun will really begin. Quite frankly, I don't think bringing Keith Hartnett in will make much of a difference. Keith is a footballer who plays ball. NOC to me looks like a hoofmeister a la Gerard Houllier. Not much point having Keith in there if Limerick aren't going to play through him. Ditto for Brendan Sweeney. Liverpools problems under Houllier were his tactics, they had the personnel, but his tactics were clueless. At the moment, our football under NOC is putrid, one dimensional garbage. Lets hope he turns it around, but to be honest I'm losing confidence in him already. It's not necessarily the bad results and the losses - it's the poor style of football that we are producing that worries me. Did they do any ball work at all in pre-season?

**fc hammer** · 22/04/2005, 8:13 PM

if these poor results keep coming, O Conner will have to go.Lets bring in a manager with some bit of a clue. O Conner has clearly lost the plot.

**dutchie** · 22/04/2005, 9:01 PM

I think people are very harsh and unrealistic when it comes to the chances of limerick this season,i think compared to last season we have a great set up and matching the best in div 1,we were unlucky in afew games so far but i think as the season goes on we will improve as a lot of our players are playing senior soccer for the first time,and i think people are being harsh on noc,i do think it will all fall into place.

**Westside** · 22/04/2005, 11:06 PM

Thats fair enough Dutchie but you can't blame people for having a go.We have a squad of about 24 players, yet we've only seen maybe 14/15 this season.We have only won 1 game out of a possible 7, not much different to last season where we had a bare team.I agree with other posts about Keith Hartnett and Mick Ahearne, these guys have to be given a chance because they are certainly better than some of the guys in there at present.Keith is a very good link player between midfield and attack and would compliment Tommy, also Mick is far better all round than O'Mahony, yet NOC still persists with the same 12-14 players.Its very frustrating for fans to see, its not just the results, but also how we are playing.....ala Jack Charlton long ball routine.NOC deserves the critisism he is getting here, our points to games played shows us that.I just wonder how Mike Kerley would have done last season had he all these players on board..........I doubt we would be any worse off than we are now..............anyone!!!!!!

**willie john** · 23/04/2005, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by anto1208

i thought this was the answer to all ye're prayers having noc come in and take over .

im sure ye know why mick aherne wont get in the team while noc is in charge & he wont get sacked since he owns some of the club , which will lead to a lot more problems the 2 should be seperate owners cant be managers it does nt work .

im going to risk another ban for this one YOU dont have a clue what your talking a bout noc dose NOT own part of the club and the club dose not need s itheads like u stiring it up and lads noc will do a good job give him time he is only in the job 3 months a very new team management and playing it will come right lets get behind them on friday 29 against galway and lets help them WIN

**jebus** · 23/04/2005, 1:50 PM

Originally Posted by anto1208

i thought this was the answer to all ye're prayers having noc come in and take over .

im sure ye know why mick aherne wont get in the team while noc is in charge & he wont get sacked since he owns some of the club , which will lead to a lot more problems the 2 should be seperate owners cant be managers it does nt work .

Watch what you say about the Aherne SCANDAL around here mate, I've already had my fingers burnt, and the chairman on the lookout at games for me for TELLING THE FLIPPING TRUTH!!!

**jebus** · 23/04/2005, 1:57 PM

Originally Posted by willie john

im going to risk another ban for this one YOU dont have a clue what your talking a bout noc dose NOT own part of the club and the club dose not need s itheads like u stiring it up and lads noc will do a good job give him time he is only in the job 3 months a very new team management and playing it will come right lets get behind them on friday 29 against galway and lets help them WIN

Will you ever calm down when people criticise the club, seriously you'll do yourself an injury if you keep it up. Anyway its not like NOC is new to Eircom League management here, he's already had one unsuccessful attempt at managing the club, and was then brought back against a lot of the fans wishes, so he was obviously going to be criticised if he didn't get off to an absolute flier. The fact that we've had a poor start to the season by playing some poor football was always going to get the anti-Noel brigade out in force, and you and the rest of your shower will just have to accept it and not respond to everything we say on this message board with insults and over-reactions. And I ask you again, why was the chairman looking for me at the kilkenny game? Surely the club aren't taking talk on this board so seriously that they'd consider banning one of their supporters from home games? So whats the story on that one Willie?

**The Derrynane 1** · 23/04/2005, 3:39 PM

Take it from me, I've played under Noel, he is most definately not a hoofmeister a la Houllier. I really do believe ye're being overly critical at this early stage. Have ye completely forgotten what ye were like last year? Give Noel, the team and the whole club time. I've got a sneaky feeling they'll deliver.

**willie john** · 23/04/2005, 4:28 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Will you ever calm down when people criticise the club, seriously you'll do yourself an injury if you keep it up. Anyway its not like NOC is new to Eircom League management here, he's already had one unsuccessful attempt at managing the club, and was then brought back against a lot of the fans wishes, so he was obviously going to be criticised if he didn't get off to an absolute flier. The fact that we've had a poor start to the season by playing some poor football was always going to get the anti-Noel brigade out in force, and you and the rest of your shower will just have to accept it and not respond to everything we say on this message board with insults and over-reactions. And I ask you again, why was the chairman looking for me at the kilkenny game? Surely the club aren't taking talk on this board so seriously that they'd consider banning one of their supporters from home games? So whats the story on that one Willie?

why dont you ask him maybe he thinks you are such a nice fellow he wants to meet you

any who said he wanted to meet u .lads we have the only club in the leauge debt free a fine squad a fine ground a fine management team on the pitch we have had a reasable start to the season things are good and will get better do u not think other clubs wood like to be like this give noc time and he will make us all happy

**willie john** · 23/04/2005, 4:31 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Watch what you say about the Aherne SCANDAL around here mate, I've already had my fingers burnt, and the chairman on the lookout at games for me for TELLING THE FLIPPING TRUTH!!!

it nobodys bussiness only micks and noc there big boys and freinds LEAVE THEM ALONE