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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohs11 View Post
    Hope Dundalk go through, but it's nice to see a strong ref in one of their games. Pity Kelly wasn't booked for the same thing against us earlier in the season.
    Big difference was that last night it was in the box with no contact from the defender - free out & yellow cards.

    Against Bohs there was a truck load of contact and it was at the box - Peno and high fives all round

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    Seriously, are you throwing in the towel already?

    There is no doubt that the odds will be stacked against Dundalk playing Qarabag, and that the performance will need to go up some levels.


    Have you so quickly forgotten the spirit and belief that was in both the team and supporters in 2016 taking on some giants of European football? The management instilled a belief that anything was possible and this translated to players and fans.

    As a well know Dundalk chap said once or twice- Beleave!

    "if you think you can, or think you can't, you're right"
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    Maybe my words were wrong, can never say never, but will agree the odds are stacked against us getting past Qarabag. For Riga it was prob 60/40 in our favour (made too hard work of it to be honest), for Qarabag it will prob be 70/30 in their favour, maybe less.

    A good result next Tuesday in Oriel Park and that could change things. Its a big ask, I still think will be very unlikely, but you never know.
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    Dundalk deserved their win last night although they really should have finished off a poor Riga side in normal time.
    I noticed that Dundalk picked the end that most looked like Oriel Park for the penalty shoot out
    Good thinking there.

    Rovers probably have the best chance of getting through from the teams left.
    Pats will struggle to get anything in Sweden & City wouldn't score in the proverbial because we lack anything even remotely related to a striker

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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    Maybe my words were wrong, can never say never, but will agree the odds are stacked against us getting past Qarabag. For Riga it was prob 60/40 in our favour (made too hard work of it to be honest), for Qarabag it will prob be 70/30 in their favour, maybe less.

    A good result next Tuesday in Oriel Park and that could change things. Its a big ask, I still think will be very unlikely, but you never know.
    The odds are irrelevant. Belief is the key. Anything is possible


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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    Dundalk will never get past this, the game is a free shot really, possible chance to draw / win the home tie (next week) and I think oriel park is fine for that, but no further games. The real prize tonight was the 1.2 M pot, so that peno was the difference between 800k and 1.2m.

    That and the parachute of a better game now (if lost tonight it was into EL r2), now EL r3 is guaranteed and this will be against a loser in CL r2 so much better chance of progressing, draw dependent of course.

    Not how you wanted to get past, but Christ that was heart stopping !
    It'd actually be against a CL1 loser (as we would be a CL2 loser if Qarabag beat us). You'd be looking at the winner of the EL2 (champions path) tie between HB Torshavn / Linfield as the most favourable EL3 draw.
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    The full list of potentials for EL3 is the winners of the below ties:

    Second qualifying round champions path

    SP Tre Penne (SMR)* v Sūduva (LTU)
    Piast Gliwice (POL) v Riga FC (LVA)
    Partizani (ALB) v Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA)
    Ararat Armenia(ARM) v Lincoln Red Imps (GIB)*
    Valur ReykjavÝk (ISL) v Ludogorets (BUL)
    Slovan Bratislava (SVK) v Feronikeli (KOS)
    Santa Coloma (AND)** v Astana (KAZ)
    HB Tˇrshavn (FRO) v Linfield (NIR)
    ShkŰndija (MKD) v F91 Dudelange (LUX)

    Anyone know if we could actually draw Riga again if they won or is that option blocked?
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    Youd fancy Dundalk against most of them,Piast,Slovan Bratislava and Astana the ones to avoid id say....
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    Quote Originally Posted by holidaysong View Post
    The full list of potentials for EL3 is the winners of the below ties:

    Second qualifying round champions path

    SP Tre Penne (SMR)* v Sūduva (LTU)
    Piast Gliwice (POL) v Riga FC (LVA)
    Partizani (ALB) v Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA)
    Ararat Armenia(ARM) v Lincoln Red Imps (GIB)*
    Valur ReykjavÝk (ISL) v Ludogorets (BUL)
    Slovan Bratislava (SVK) v Feronikeli (KOS)
    Santa Coloma (AND)** v Astana (KAZ)
    HB Tˇrshavn (FRO) v Linfield (NIR)
    ShkŰndija (MKD) v F91 Dudelange (LUX)

    Anyone know if we could actually draw Riga again if they won or is that option blocked?
    I'm not sure my eyeballs could take watching another 180mins+ of Dundalk playing Riga

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    Quote Originally Posted by holidaysong View Post
    The full list of potentials for EL3 is the winners of the below ties:

    Second qualifying round champions path

    SP Tre Penne (SMR)* v Sūduva (LTU)
    Piast Gliwice (POL) v Riga FC (LVA)
    Partizani (ALB) v Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA)
    Ararat Armenia(ARM) v Lincoln Red Imps (GIB)*
    Valur ReykjavÝk (ISL) v Ludogorets (BUL)
    Slovan Bratislava (SVK) v Feronikeli (KOS)
    Santa Coloma (AND)** v Astana (KAZ)
    HB Tˇrshavn (FRO) v Linfield (NIR)
    ShkŰndija (MKD) v F91 Dudelange (LUX)



    Anyone know if we could actually draw Riga again if they won or is that option blocked?

    Thanks HS, so is this the full list of potentials for DFC should we lose to Qarabag ? I was hoping for Malta, but they got through CL r1 on away goals, so does this mean we cannot draw them, and def only from the above list ?

    Not sure about drawing same side again, has that happened previously ?

    Winners of the game in bold is def the easiest, but how did these two draw each other, Faroes v NI ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    Draw on Monday,


    One of these if Dundalk progress.......Bate again?


    Ajax (NED)
    Celtic (SCO) v N§mme Kalju (EST)
    K°benhavn (DEN) v The New Saints (WAL)
    GNK Dinamo (CRO) v Saburtalo (GEO)
    BATE Borisov (BLR) v Rosenborg (NOR)
    APOEL (CYP) v Sutjeska (MNE)
    https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert...eedcl2019.html

    There's going to be underdogs no matter what, but Dinamo look the better draw to me. There's much of a muchness between themselves and BATE, but Dundalk would get their seeding in the final round, if they managed to beat them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    Big difference was that last night it was in the box with no contact from the defender - free out & yellow cards.

    Against Bohs there was a truck load of contact and it was at the box - Peno and high fives all round
    It was outside the box, and a blatant dive, similar to Duffy's in Dalymount. Watching the game last night, I was struck by the fact Dundalk's cynicism was getting them nowhere with the referee, and it was a welcome change to how they're reffed in Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky12345678 View Post
    Currently BATE are ranked 55 and Qarabag 69... so make of that what you will. Its also possible for a team to catch them out on a bad day/year etc Qarabag were held 0-0 away against the Albanian team (hardly big hitters) and won 2-0 at home in Azerbajan (the second goal was in the 94th minute...). Which might not mean much but if Dundalk step up their game and have a 1-0 going away its all to play for.
    Id say the trek out there will be tough though...
    Interesting, as most I spoke to last night seemed to think Dundalk have little chance v Qarabag, I had a look at them this am, and they are no world beaters, much stronger than us still, but maybe there is a chance.

    The trek out will be long, but at least Dlk will fly their own charter, so it will be direct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohs11 View Post
    Watching the game last night, I was struck by the fact Dundalk's cynicism was getting them nowhere with the referee, and it was a welcome change to how they're reffed in Ireland.
    It's funny how even a Champions League match in far away Riga can trigger the vulnerabilities of the more sensitive Bohs fans

    Any cynicism emanated from Riga, aside from Daniel Kelly's histrionics. The card count over both legs tells its own story

    I thought that the refereeing overall was excellent, even if some cynical late challenges by Debelko went unpunished in the first leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    Thanks HS, so is this the full list of potentials for DFC should we lose to Qarabag ? I was hoping for Malta, but they got through CL r1 on away goals, so does this mean we cannot draw them, and def only from the above list ?

    Not sure about drawing same side again, has that happened previously ?

    Winners of the game in bold is def the easiest, but how did these two draw each other, Faroes v NI ?
    Hi oriel, so yes it is only the list above. Seeding in the EL (champions path) is based on the round you exit the CL from rather than club coefficient. So if both ourselves and Valetta went out of CL2 into EL3 then we would both be seeded with the clubs who exited from CL1 being unseeded.

    In EL2 (champions path) only the 3 clubs exiting in the preliminary round were unseeded and once matched up with 3 teams from CL1, it was an open draw between the remaining teams as the number of seeded and unseeded teams was unequal.

    For EL3 this wouldn't be the case as there is the same number of seeded and unseeded.

    However for EL4, there would only be 6 seeded clubs (those who exit from CL3) and 10 unseeded. So as an unseeded team (assuming we got through EL3), 4 of these will be lucky enough to draw another unseeded team (i.e. another club that exited CL2 or indeed CL1 if they advanced from EL3).

    So in the most favourable draws, you could be looking at the likes of Linfield or Dudelange in EL3 and then the likes of TNS or Valletta in EL4 in order to get into the EL group stages. The chances are very unlikely of course, but it is possible.

    Below is the page on Bert's site that deals with it.

    https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert...eedel2019.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger121 View Post
    Drogs lost a crazy shootout in the noughties against some Norwegian side
    wasnt it 11-10 in 08!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    wasnt it 11-10 in 08!!
    Don't get me STARTed on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    wasnt it 11-10 in 08!!
    Aug 24, 2006 -
    Drogheda United 1 IK Start 0
    (Aet Agg 1-1. Ik Start win 11-10 on penalties)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejadem View Post
    Aug 24, 2006 -
    Drogheda United 1 IK Start 0
    (Aet Agg 1-1. Ik Start win 11-10 on penalties)
    Graham Gartland missed two penalties in the shoot-out
    Dont leave out that he was the designated regular penalty taker too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    It's funny how even a Champions League match in far away Riga can trigger the vulnerabilities of the more sensitive Bohs fans

    Any cynicism emanated from Riga, aside from Daniel Kelly's histrionics. The card count over both legs tells its own story

    I thought that the refereeing overall was excellent, even if some cynical late challenges by Debelko went unpunished in the first leg.
    Cynicism on both sides, Kelly's dive last night wasn't Dundalk's first attempt at conning the ref. They went down plenty of times looking for fouls which weren't given, with refereeing you could only hope for in the LOI. Qarabag will be an interesting one, as you couldn't imagine them being strangers to the 'dark arts'.

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    Early goal for Cork. Game on?

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