QuoteWe hoped that Peak6 might have a go at doing something with Oriel Park in the beginning. But whats the point or where is the value to the club?
Well they actually got through a round. Cork kept getting hammered. What's your point?Originally Posted by CityBoy
We hoped that Peak6 might have a go at doing something with Oriel Park in the beginning. But whats the point or where is the value to the club?
Ah CD isn't it obvious?!T
There is a bias against Cork City FC/Cork in general. Dundalk are the media darlings (even when Cork were champions). Not Cork = living in hell and JC had to fiercely point out that all clubs outside Cork needed to focus - we are all 'Not Cork' so to get attendances up to the consistant Rebel Level of 4k is tough ask. JC was a loved 'fighter' type at City especially facing up to Munster rival midfielders so deserved a double page spread weekly in all the Dublin meeja outlets. The non tackling policy probably didnt help though.... We just all cant compete with the real capital! Give it another 4 seasons with Rovers nip and tuck with us then we will be counting eachothers' fingers and toes match nights
Business as usual this evening - Bohs robbed a Dublin Derby again, Penos needed to divide biggest club in the land and giants Cabinteely, Cup specialists did enough, free scoring Sligo looked great, Lims limp on. And another 2 days of cup games ;p
Yeh they stated that the more money the club make the more would be available to spend on the ground (already have put in new tarmac behind goals, fixed all the seats in the Shed, fencing up in away area, New dressing rooms in YDC should be ready before end season, one best training facilities in country already done)
They are only here 18 months.
Whats your plan B cause the new Dalymount has wemt very quiet and i doubt the FAI will be in a position to give money for it anyway
DFC website
Please note: this game is NOT being broadcast live on Irish TV.https://www.dundalkfc.com/europa-lea...atislava-home/* ALL tickets for this game will be sold ONLINE ONLY. To purchase, please visit our online ticket page.
* Tickets will be priced at €15 adult, €10 concession and €5 juvenile (under-12s).
Link to online ticket page
https://embed.futureticketing.ie/c/dundalk-fc/
Asked Mark Devlin about the TV coverage on Twitter. He said it was budget restraints from the TV companies as to why it's not being televised.
Imagine Eir are feeling the pinch and RTE are just not bothered. Shame really. Hopefully there'll be a live stream of some sort.
Pity Dundalk couldn't run their own paid stream like Shamrock Rovers did.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
The circumstances and market is probably very different - the Rovers stream was for an away fixture where Cypriot TV facilities were already in place while there was a ready market among Rovers fans not travelling to Cyprus
I suspect that it's doubtful if it would be financially viable, particularly if it was diminishing the live attendance for the match
A single HD camera in the gantry and someone providing commentary (possibly linking up with Dundalk FM) can be run at next to no cost. If only 500 people tuned in at a fiver each, it'd be a handy bit of profit for the club.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
You may well be right that a low quality operation could be provided at low cost.
Presumably many pubs in Dundalk would sign up and provide an alternative to live attendance to their customers. Ditto for other League of Ireland fans in Dublin who might otherwise attend. If a live broadcast stream knocked only 200 people off the match attendance attracting 500 subscribers would make it a phantom profit.
There is big role for streaming in the future - with 10,000 seats available to fill in a venue 80km away from Oriel Park, this is probably not the time or place for it.
DCC developing Dalymount ask them. Dalymount now in a better state than Oriel (even with new tarmac 😁so we don’t need a plan B just yet.
Reckon there’s more chance of DCC developing a stadium than PEAK6 but I’m sure you know that.
Well from day 1 they said it would be a good bit down the road.DCC developing Dalymount ask them. Dalymount now in a better state than Oriel (even with new tarmac 😁
Reckon there’s more chance of DCC developing a stadium than PEAK6 but I’m sure you know that.
They havnt lied to us about anything so far a and have done everything they stated they would.
I think il take their word
Disbelieve Dublin City Council but believe a vulture fund ?
....about those magic beans, I just got more, giving you first option 😁
They haven't promised you anything, so they've fulfilled that alright.
Their shareholders are their priority, .
Hopefully other Dundalk fans don't share your blind faith in a multi national vulture fund.
In fairness Peak6 are more an investment fund made up of multiple investors and not a vulture fund. Pepper are the only vulture type fund close to operating in any way in the league really. That's not to say one is better that the other in terms of potentially upping sticks albeit the 'owner' of Pepper's involvement in Rovers is much more entangled in the club so arguably more stable. A lot less ethically obtained wealth involved in Rovers for what it is worth or whether anybody really cares.
Not a lot us Dundalk fans can do except roll with the club owners with hope and faith that they are true to their word of long term involvement - good for us if they stay, bad for the league creating a significnt financial gap that all bar maybe Rovers will struggle to close without investment of their own - Galway under the Comish brothers could rise to European slots quick enough. Power has spat the dummy at Waterford in that regard for the next couple of years anyway or until eligible for a European licence.
None if any of us Dundalk fans are blind to the risks of Peak6 as our overloards. But so far so good. My particular worry will happen when we have a year or 2 out of Europe or eg if smaller leagues like LoI get excluded from Champions League like in the past where the real money is. Likewise EL2 if properly funded could see Peak6 hang about a long time. Over time the issue of Oriel's neglect will only build! But I think they are going about their busines development well. Slowly but surely, considering they are here only 18 months, the busines side of Dundalk FC is being developed. Income streams being identified and worked upon, big effort in gathering data on supporters. stakeholders in general, and where development can happen eg with family enclosures. Its a business that if a person is barely a toddler for all ther years on the go so a huge amount of work and improvement to happen before we are within an asses roar of developing Oriel Park.
Last edited by Nesta99; 11/08/2019 at 2:30 PM.
I hope you do get a ground but if Peak leave tomorrow we have a YDC building that club owns, Best squad in Ireland, Income guaranteed for this n next season in Europe, The top players in Ireland Boyle Gannon on long deals. We will be fine
I think you are underestimating the cost of the best squad in Ireland + cost of running a club if you think European income is all thats needed. Peak6 walk away tomorrow and we'd be seriously trimming the fat quick smart!!
Never thought I’d see the day where LOI fans are debating which club is funded by the more ethically obtained wealth ( and as you say no one really cares) but since you mention it , if you look at the a number of types of holdings/assets P6 are invested in then you’ll see that they have multiple assets that aren’t ‘ethical’ - but as you say no one really cares
You care enough to say it twice!
So the Dundalk game against Sligo Rovers is postponed as they are to play in Eurpope 3 days later. But Dundalk played Cobh in the Cup but this game wasn't postopned even though they are playing in Europe 3 days later.
The European clubs have way to much power in postponing games to suit their own needs. It's the usual BS you hear of 'it's good for the league', 'they need to fresh', 'they need to be ready'. There is no taught of the teams who are relying on badly needed gates to keep the wolf from the door, only to hear they wont have a home game for another load of weeks. How is this a benefit to the league … wages still have to be paid.
If clubs in European games want to postpone games then fair enough, but they should have to pay for that privilege ... say €10k if they postpone an away match! That would only be a small small percentage of what a club in Europe is making but is massive to other teams who simply want to pay wages and are being given no say about their own home fixtures.
Last edited by redobit; 12/08/2019 at 2:39 PM.
Manager: Fergal, have you your boots with ya?
Fergal: Ya, I have them here.
Manager: Ah good stuff, well give them to this man so, he forgot his!
I've yet to see anyone disagree with this even fans of the teams who are in Europe.
Its such a no brainer it explains why the fai haven't done it.
Posting Permissions
Bookmarks