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    Knight at Derby
    Collins at Stoke
    Connolly at Brighton
    O'Shea at West Brom
    Idah at Norwich

    I don't think it's a coincidence that these lads are coming through at mid ranked clubs like those to be honest. Those are clubs that offer a clear pathway to the first team if a player is good enough. Obviously you'll always get players moving to the traditional bigger clubs as well, as Kelleher, Masterson, Parrott and Bazunu have done, but there's a lot to be said for turning down a Man United and signing for a smaller team. Odubeko looks like the next player that could benefit from that approach.
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    Yep. If my son is offered Barcelona or Huddersfield...he is going to Huddersfield possibly with a puss on his face...he will thank me when he is still a pro at 20

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    7.5m bid from Burnley for Collins turned down by Stoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Knight at Derby
    Collins at Stoke
    Connolly at Brighton
    O'Shea at West Brom
    Idah at Norwich

    I don't think it's a coincidence that these lads are coming through at mid ranked clubs like those to be honest. Those are clubs that offer a clear pathway to the first team.
    certainly merit in your argument. possibly our best three players over the last 25 years, robbie, roy and duff, all started with mid ranked clubs before moving on to bigger teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    7.5m bid from Burnley for Collins turned down by Stoke.
    Would it not suit all parties, to agree to the following:
    8m now for Collins.
    He is loaned back immediately to stoke until the end of the season.
    Joins Burnley when he is in a good position to start after tarkowski leaves

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    Don’t agree, as it’s a weak move for Collins. Stay at stoke and finish out the season. Then revisit options in the summer. Burnley are mediocre and will likely be a championship club in the next year or two

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    The thing about Burnley is this new investment there. If that is all set up and there's a pot to spend from during the summer, surely Dyche will be able to enhance the playing style in conjunction with enhancing the playing staff.

    One thing they do well is defend. There could be a worse environment for Collins.

    On the other hand, I'd rather Knight steer clear of Burnley. I think he's more suited to a Leeds, Liverpool, Southampton.. teams that play some variation of high energy, high intensity football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_c12000 View Post
    Don’t agree, as it’s a weak move for Collins. Stay at stoke and finish out the season. Then revisit options in the summer. Burnley are mediocre and will likely be a championship club in the next year or two
    He will play and his salary will jump 8 times
    They could stay up in the coming years as well. He is an unbelievable manager and now they have a few bob

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    https://www.the42.ie/irish-defender-...56690-Feb2021/
    Collins has fractured his foot and will be out for a few months, ruling him out of consideration in March.

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    A small fracture on his foot, sounded an awful lot worse at first so relieved to hear that.

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    And just read the bit at the end of that article which says he's suspended for the games against Serbia and Luxemburg because of his u21 red card, is that right?!

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    https://www.the42.ie/nathan-collins-...58076-Feb2021/

    Another good article on the42. Seems to have a good support system around him. It'll be interesting to see if he's tempted away from Stoke in the summer, would imagine if they can go up he'll stay, but if not he might take the chance to step up to a premier league team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passinginterest View Post
    https://www.the42.ie/nathan-collins-...58076-Feb2021/

    Another good article on the42. Seems to have a good support system around him. It'll be interesting to see if he's tempted away from Stoke in the summer, would imagine if they can go up he'll stay, but if not he might take the chance to step up to a premier league team.
    Really enjoyed the insight on the club selection process when Nathan was moving to England. It seems like an inspired decision from Nathan and his father:

    “I went away around the same age, 14 or 15, and it was just a different world to what they’re doing now,” he says.
    “I went to a much bigger club, which is very difficult at the best of times, but if a young boy is going to a big club now, it’s a really big ask.
    “Nathan had a look at a couple of clubs, but we didn’t put him out to 10 different clubs, like they do with a lot of young players.
    “We went into Stoke and there was such a warm feeling. We had a little sniff around. Nathan went out training, so I had a look behind a few little doors that you probably shouldn’t look behind, as you do.
    “They were category one for the English system, so you’re guaranteed certain standards. You were basically getting the same type of stuff that you would get at a top Premier League club. And Stoke at that stage were in the top 10 [in the Premier League table] three years in a row. So there was a great buzz about the place.
    “Nathan loved the people around the area, we came in, the cleaning ladies were having a cup of tea with us and the canteen ladies, they just made us very welcome.
    “I went out to look at one of the sessions and the detail that the coaches went into on preparations for matches was unbelievable. I was looking at the set plays they were doing with the young kids, phenomenal work.
    “When I went away to Liverpool, they were the best team in Europe. It was more the financial package at that time. In the 1980s, people needed money and you sort of went that route.
    “It wasn’t really a financial decision [in this instance], it was a head decision from my previous experience and Nathan’s heart.”

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