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    they said on Sky News that his new nickname among Romans would be Papa Ratzi .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eire06
    heard on the radio there that he is less strict but has much the same views as Pope John Paul II
    less strict? I doubt it! The guy is about as righ-wing as they come. Proof that the RC Church (or its hierarchy at least) is aged, sexist and conservative in its outlook. And thats not even mentioning his Nazi past

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    I heard he is very conservative.

    We call him Benedictus, btw, like John Paul was Yohanan Paulus.

    All the bells in the churches around ring, it's quite impressive.
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    Its joseph ratzinger, gonna be called benedict XVI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    And thats not even mentioning his Nazi past
    What did you hear about it? I remember people here mentioning it, which makes sense in a Jewish country, but haven't really heard anything more than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    less strict? I doubt it! The guy is about as righ-wing as they come. Proof that the RC Church (or its hierarchy at least) is aged, sexist and conservative in its outlook. And thats not even mentioning his Nazi past
    , he does not have a Nazi past, his father was in policeman in the Nazi state, hardly his fault, he joined Hitler youth, but deserted German army

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    less strict? I doubt it! The guy is about as righ-wing as they come. Proof that the RC Church (or its hierarchy at least) is aged, sexist and conservative in its outlook. And thats not even mentioning his Nazi past
    Ya just heard different there on the 'Last Word' on about his strong views on conterception and apparantly homosexuality is evil
    We'll see how he works out.. There seems to be two very different strong opinions on him

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerr's tribe
    , he does not have a Nazi past, his father was in policeman in the Nazi state, hardly his fault, he joined Hitler youth, but deserted German army

    Like there was so much free will back in Nazi Germany. I very much doubt they'd vote a fcukin nazi to be the head of the catholic church

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerr's tribe
    , he does not have a Nazi past, his father was in policeman in the Nazi state, hardly his fault, he joined Hitler youth, but deserted German army
    Hmm - I'm not saying it to create an argument, just want to make sure. I'm not accusing and I don't really know anything about him, but how can "he does not have a nazi past" and "he joined Hitler youth" co-exist in the same sentence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerr's tribe
    , he does not have a Nazi past, his father was in policeman in the Nazi state, hardly his fault, he joined Hitler youth, but deserted German army
    That is a Nazi past- FACT! I'm not saying he IS a Nazi, but he's certainly tainted by it IMO, and from what I've read about him, his views on homosexuality etc wouldn't have been out of place there at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shae_B2D
    Hmm - I'm not saying it to create an argument, just want to make sure. I'm not accusing and I don't really know anything about him, but how can "he does not have a nazi past" and "he joined Hitler youth" co-exist in the same sentence?
    he could have been forced to join for all we know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shae_B2D
    Hmm - I'm not saying it to create an argument, just want to make sure. I'm not accusing and I don't really know anything about him, but how can "he does not have a nazi past" and "he joined Hitler youth" co-exist in the same sentence?
    i would not have thought that as a young boy about to be brainwashed it was his choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerr's tribe
    i would not have thought that as a young boy about to be brainwashed it was his choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Eire06
    he could have been forced to join for all we know...
    perfectly possible- still a Nazi past though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    perfectly possible- still a Nazi past though.
    yep but if true not by choice, and as soon as he had a choice he left

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    German Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the strict defender of Catholic orthodoxy for the past 23 years, was elected Pope on Tuesday despite a widespread assumption he was too old and divisive to win election.

    He took the name Benedict XVI, a cardinal announced to crowds in St. Peter's Square after white smoke from the Vatican's Sistine Chapel chimney and the pealing of bells from St. Peter's Basilica announced that a new pope had been chosen.

    Roman Catholic cardinals elected Ratzinger on just the second day of secret conclave to find a successor to Pope John Paul II.

    Billed as the front-runner going into the conclave, Ratzinger, 78, was widely seen as a standard-bearer who would fall short of the required two-thirds majority and have to cede to a more conciliatory compromise figure.

    But he sounded very much the candidate before going into the conclave on Monday, defending orthodox Catholicism and warning the other 114 cardinal electors against following godless modern trends.

    "We are moving towards a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognise anything as definitive and has as its highest value one's own ego and one's own desires," he declared at a pre-conclave Mass in St. Peter's Basilica.

    Ratzinger's stern leadership of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, the modern successor to the Inquisition, delighted conservative Catholics but upset moderates and other Christians whose churches he described as deficient.

    Born in Bavaria on April 16, 1927, Ratzinger was a leading theology professor and then archbishop of Munich before taking over the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in 1981.

    In that office, Ratzinger disciplined Latin American "liberation theology" theologians, denounced homosexuality and gay marriage and pressured Asian priests who saw non-Christian religions as part of God's plan for humanity.

    In a document in 2000, he branded other Christian churches as deficient -- shocking Anglicans, Lutherans and other Protestants in ecumenical dialogue with Rome for years.

    As dean of the College of Cardinals, he presided over John Paul's funeral Mass and the daily meetings of cardinals to discuss the next papacy.

    Ratzinger was the oldest cardinal to be named pope since Clement XII, who was also 78 when he became pope in 1730. He is the first German pope since Victor II (1055-1057).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eire06
    he could have been forced to join for all we know...
    definitely true, but that's not a fact, and we don't have a way to know really.
    I sure hope he can continue John Paul's way, who was loved by the Jewish people as well, he did so much to get people closer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eire06
    yep but if true not by choice, and as soon as he had a choice he left
    fair enough. As I said, I wasn't saying he is a Nazi, but he does have a Nazi past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    fair enough. As I said, I wasn't saying he is a Nazi, but he does have a Nazi past.
    I don't think that makes him 'tainted' though...

    It was also compulsary for every young boy in Germany at the time to join the Hitler youth

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    I did'nt think he'd be elected to be honest. I mean he's 78 and, not been funny, but how long will he last?
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    Anyway, I dont think it's that big of a deal. You never hear of the pope that much anyway. Give it another week or two and he'll be forgotten about.
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