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    Quote Originally Posted by samhaydenjr View Post
    Perhaps, and I certainly wouldn't put it past any of the rich and powerful. At the same time, we are living in a time where spouting conspiracy theories has become a tool to advance actual conspiracies. I mean Clinton knew him, but so did Trump (in spite of his denials) - and the first public people actually accused of sexual misconduct in relation to his actions are Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz - could the Royal Family have orchestrated it? And the Daily Mail has published pictures of Epstein and the accuser, Virginia Roberts, at a party on convicted fraudster Flavio Briatore's boat that Eddie Jordan also attended - so could he have been killed to protect Formula 1? Or perhaps it was the Russian government looking to protect their boy Trump. Or maybe it was some guards/prisoners who believed he would get away with another slap on the wrist.

    Or perhaps he decided to kill himself because he didn't have a way out this time and didn't have the guts to face up to his crimes and victims.

    So I guess we'll just have to listen to the official evidence in an open-minded manner and analyze it fairly and possibly even accept it unless there is compelling evidence to the contrary. Yes, yes, we know, Donald... BORING!!!
    "The Russian government looking to protect their boy Trump"
    Wow, I mean wow.........what a statement!
    To think there are still people out there that still believe this garbage, after 2 plus years of investigations involving the top lawyers in America.
    Amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    "The Russian government looking to protect their boy Trump"
    Wow, I mean wow.........what a statement!
    To think there are still people out there that still believe this garbage, after 2 plus years of investigations involving the top lawyers in America.
    Amazing.
    Ha! I thought that line might get a reaction. I think it stands up just simply on the basis that Robert Mueller stated plainly, in front of Congress, under oath, that the Russian government interfered in the American election and that they favoured Trump. That alone justifies, in my mind, saying that Trump is their boy. And that's before we even mention:
    - the meetings between Russian operatives and members of the Trump campaign, including his own son, whether or not there was a grand conspiratorial scheme on the part of his people
    - the fact that, on ten occasions, he tried to obstruct investigations into the Russian government's interference with the election and favourable connections with members of his circle, including protecting a cabinet member with ties to the Russian oligarchy who wanted to let them off scot-free for the invasion of Ukraine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muelle...ed_obstruction
    - the lies about the timeline of the Trump Tower Moscow
    - his refusal to publish his tax returns
    - his uncharacteristically docile manner around Putin, to the point where he publicly stated that he believed Putin over evidence from his own Intelligence services
    - and probably a bunch of other things that show that Putin's government favours Trump and interfered with the election on his behalf and that his campaign were accepting of and complicit in this interference that I'm too tired to research, again regardless of whether there was a grand conspiratorial scheme with a clear and obvious quid pro quo between the two parties (which Mueller didn't actually rule out, in spite of what Barr said)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    What are your guys' thoughts on the Epstein suicide? Whether you are on the #trumpbodycount or #clintonbodycount train, you have to think that this feckin stinks eh? Absolutely sickened that the chances of us getting anywhere close to the truth on this are next to zero now.
    I for one was shocked at the news of his death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samhaydenjr View Post
    Ha! I thought that line might get a reaction. I think it stands up just simply on the basis that Robert Mueller stated plainly, in front of Congress, under oath, that the Russian government interfered in the American election and that they favoured Trump. That alone justifies, in my mind, saying that Trump is their boy. And that's before we even mention:
    - the meetings between Russian operatives and members of the Trump campaign, including his own son, whether or not there was a grand conspiratorial scheme on the part of his people
    - the fact that, on ten occasions, he tried to obstruct investigations into the Russian government's interference with the election and favourable connections with members of his circle, including protecting a cabinet member with ties to the Russian oligarchy who wanted to let them off scot-free for the invasion of Ukraine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muelle...ed_obstruction
    - the lies about the timeline of the Trump Tower Moscow
    - his refusal to publish his tax returns
    - his uncharacteristically docile manner around Putin, to the point where he publicly stated that he believed Putin over evidence from his own Intelligence services
    - and probably a bunch of other things that show that Putin's government favours Trump and interfered with the election on his behalf and that his campaign were accepting of and complicit in this interference that I'm too tired to research, again regardless of whether there was a grand conspiratorial scheme with a clear and obvious quid pro quo between the two parties (which Mueller didn't actually rule out, in spite of what Barr said)
    Russian collusion. There was plenty of it. But unfortunately you are looking under all the wrong stones. Try Glen Simpson, Christopher Steele, Bruch Ohr, Nelly Ohr, Lisa Page, Peter Strock, the bogus FISA application and how the court was duped four times. What happened to Carter Page and Michael Flynn was ok with you, I guess? Did you ever ask yoursel why Robert Mueller failed to notice all these elephants in the room?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    I for one was shocked at the news of his death.
    Some interesting developments today and yesterday.

    Yesterday Rush Limbaugh claimed that sources were telling him the bones in Epstein's neck were broken in a manner that could not have been done in an act of
    suicide. In addition Epstein, according to his lawyers, was looking forward to their next meeting (because, according to them, he was confident he could beat the rap against him. The reason for his optimism was that
    he had already been tried and convicted for the crime - in Florida - they were now charging him with, and the law says one cannot be charged a second time for the same crime).

    Then today, the coroner ruled that his death was a suicide.

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    Suicide my hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    Suicide my hole.
    I haven't heard of one person out there that actually believes the suicide theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    Russian collusion. There was plenty of it. But unfortunately you are looking under all the wrong stones. Try Glen Simpson, Christopher Steele, Bruch Ohr, Nelly Ohr, Lisa Page, Peter Strock, the bogus FISA application and how the court was duped four times. What happened to Carter Page and Michael Flynn was ok with you, I guess? Did you ever ask yoursel why Robert Mueller failed to notice all these elephants in the room?
    Ah come on now Mark - what-aboutism? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta View Post
    Suicide my hole.
    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    Suicide my hole.
    Nice to see you two agreeing on this

    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    I haven't heard of one person out there that actually believes the suicide theory
    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    Some interesting developments today and yesterday.

    Yesterday Rush Limbaugh claimed that sources were telling him the bones in Epstein's neck were broken in a manner that could not have been done in an act of
    suicide.
    Then today, the coroner ruled that his death was a suicide.
    Well if Limbaugh said it wasn't a suicide, I'm actually more inclined to believe the coroner

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    Quote Originally Posted by samhaydenjr View Post
    Nice to see you two agreeing on this





    Well if Limbaugh said it wasn't a suicide, I'm actually more inclined to believe the coroner
    Totally unrealted to the above, but this is a very interesting article on the gun argument in America (which is front and center of every debate when there is a mass shooting).

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/05/c..._campaign=push

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    Totally unrealted to the above, but this is a very interesting article on the gun argument in America (which is front and center of every debate when there is a mass shooting).

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/05/c..._campaign=push
    Carlson would want to be careful - he's turning into a lefty liberal. Chinese workers rights, getting employers to pay staff enough to live, whatever next!
    If a dog weighs under 50 lbs it's a cat, and cats are useless.

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