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    If you saw that in a comment section, you'd think the poster was genuinely deranged

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    Yep. The idea of a madman in the White House is rather disconcerting, but it may be what we have here.

    The thing I can't work out yet is whether the issue is Trump or the Republicans. That is, if Trump snuffs it in the morning, will things really change?

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    that cant be real, surely?
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    I was told before Xmas that was genuine fear in such circles that people in that environment are dealing with someone who has lost their mind - and due to the leader/duce/etc around this particular individual being surrounded totally by individuals of weak moral fibre, that there is no control there. It's a case of take each day as it comes and hope for the best.

    In 2026, and there's no way this sounds anything other than dramatic, all he has done is drawn a parallel between today and a certain regime in 1930s Europe. and the reactions to him mirror the reactions of those days too.

    RTE's Washington coverage with Sean Whelan is interesting. They've reported specifically on reactions to some of the announcements and they declare that there are Senators/Congresspeople on both sides of the houses (thankfully) who are up front in saying that such maneouvres do not have the support of the houses (including from Republicans)/

    All bets are off I would say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom View Post
    I was told before Xmas that was genuine fear in such circles that people in that environment are dealing with someone who has lost their mind - and due to the leader/duce/etc around this particular individual being surrounded totally by individuals of weak moral fibre, that there is no control there. It's a case of take each day as it comes and hope for the best.
    Ironically, the same criticism was levied at Joe Biden, when no-one could talk him out of going for a second term he patently wasn't up for.

    Probably tells you something of the nature of power in general, and human capacity to group think.

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    The weirdest thing about this whole episode is it shows just how fragile the general order of the world is. Its really all just about China and the USA, maybe a dash of Russia and India (but not really), and who you line up behind. Its funny... I couldnt stand Justin Trudeau but found myself cheering on Mark Carney at the weekend after he did a trade deal with China and formally reset relations. Massive F U to Trump and a deal that does well for western Canada was a good thing in my book...but then I realized he had done a deal with another murdering, interfering, scummy country. I was still pretty happy about it but you know what i mean... a devil on both shoulders.

    It also exposes just how powerless and irrelevant an entity the EU is. Got fat and lazy feeding off the tit of the USA and here we are. A madman's decision away from chaos. Insert Ireland for Greenland and I think the reaction and such is more or less the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Ironically, the same criticism was levied at Joe Biden, when no-one could talk him out of going for a second term he patently wasn't up for.

    Probably tells you something of the nature of power in general, and human capacity to group think.
    I agree with you - but I think they eventually did sway him before it went too far (although one could surmise that it was the failure to nip the suggestion in the bud that allowed the Trump Tsunami to gain the necessary momentum to turn World Politics into chaos).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    The weirdest thing about this whole episode is it shows just how fragile the general order of the world is. Its really all just about China and the USA, maybe a dash of Russia and India (but not really), and who you line up behind. Its funny... I couldnt stand Justin Trudeau but found myself cheering on Mark Carney at the weekend after he did a trade deal with China and formally reset relations. Massive F U to Trump and a deal that does well for western Canada was a good thing in my book...but then I realized he had done a deal with another murdering, interfering, scummy country. I was still pretty happy about it but you know what i mean... a devil on both shoulders.

    It also exposes just how powerless and irrelevant an entity the EU is. Got fat and lazy feeding off the tit of the USA and here we are. A madman's decision away from chaos. Insert Ireland for Greenland and I think the reaction and such is more or less the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom View Post
    I agree with you - but I think they eventually did sway him before it went too far (although one could surmise that it was the failure to nip the suggestion in the bud that allowed the Trump Tsunami to gain the necessary momentum to turn World Politics into chaos).
    Oh for sure. The Trump stuff is a magnitude removed, but it's the same basic idea.

    I don't know did anyone else in the White House see that letter to Norway before it went out, but it's deranged nonsense that should have been challenged.

    But as is the way of bullies who hold such power (in this case, instant sacking), silence can often win out. Bit like how the bauld Stalin used to run things.

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    this could be an absolutely incredible spoof by Trump.

    Today is a bank holiday in the US. Markets are closed.
    He has through his own buffoonery thrown the European markets into a tailspin. Gold prices have shot up, as have silver. Their markets are linked with the dollar, so I assume the dollar value goes up too... knows the EU require some deliberation before committing to a reaction, by which time he (or his team) could play down the whole thing (by the time the US markets open tomorrow).

    Is that plausible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Oh for sure. The Trump stuff is a magnitude removed, but it's the same basic idea.

    I don't know did anyone else in the White House see that letter to Norway before it went out, but it's deranged nonsense that should have been challenged.

    But as is the way of bullies who hold such power (in this case, instant sacking), silence can often win out. Bit like how the bauld Stalin used to run things.
    It's as if the FIFA Peace Prize is completely meaningless.
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    Russian state controlled media expertly egging Trump on for a whole host of obvious reasons. Its the language they are using that makes me laugh as it panders so much to his ego, he will likely fall hook line and sinker for it.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c17zpvkddpzo
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    Just seen a clip there of Trump claiming he doesn't care about the Nobel Prize but then following straight after with implying its the Norwegian government blocking him form winning it. Like we are meant to forget how much he banged on about how he deserved it for months
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    He just makes things up as he goes along. He needs Greenland because otherwise Russia will take it - Russia the enemy - but then he invites Putin to be on his Board of Peace. It makes no sense.

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    Id love each of the european leaders to do a 1 minute piece to camera calling outTrump for threatening Europe and appealing to their diasporas to call their Congressman and Senators and ask to have Trjump impeached....then pay to have the speaches played on US TV channels eitther now or in the run up to the Mid Terms. Its time to stand up to the big fat orange bully

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom View Post
    this could be an absolutely incredible spoof by Trump.

    Today is a bank holiday in the US. Markets are closed.
    He has through his own buffoonery thrown the European markets into a tailspin. Gold prices have shot up, as have silver. Their markets are linked with the dollar, so I assume the dollar value goes up too... knows the EU require some deliberation before committing to a reaction, by which time he (or his team) could play down the whole thing (by the time the US markets open tomorrow).

    Is that plausible?
    Well today the dollar is down, the Dow Jones down 870 points and Mortgage rates have shot up.... so it wasnt that plan
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    He just makes things up as he goes along. He needs Greenland because otherwise Russia will take it - Russia the enemy - but then he invites Putin to be on his Board of Peace. It makes no sense.
    I saw someone from either Greenland or Danish politics note that the similar claims of a Chinese threat in the region were odd given the last Chinese warship observed near Greenland was in 1950. There is little point paying the slightest attention to what Trump says, as it's a diahorria of utter ********. But every word gets reported hysterically because it generates clicks. Now, when he imposes tariffs for not handing over Greenland, which I think he's done - you'd lose track of all the BS - then you have to react.

    I'm baffled by some of the appeasment-themed nonsense I've heard from politicians recently. China matched his tariffs up to about 120% and then announced that they were bored now as US goods were totally uncompetitive in their market at those rates anyway, and he folded like a wet towel. Tell him to **** off and stop showing snivelling weakness.
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