American Politics

**seanfhear** · 22/09/2025, 1:42 PM

Charlie Kirk was a Moderate.

I suggest you do some actual research in to the life, that the man, that has been charged with shooting Charlie Kirk was living.

The accused was most certainly Not living a conservative lifestyle.

And the thing is, Charlie Kirk was becoming even more moderate as he got older ~ ~ He was actually a very young man with a very young family and a very young wife.

As I say Charlie Kirk was becoming more moderate as he grew older. Something you see with many Christian People.

The more you watch of Charlie Kirk, you will see how moderate he was, and was becoming.

**Real ale Madrid** · 22/09/2025, 1:58 PM

Originally Posted by seanfhear

Charlie Kirk was a Moderate.

Originally Posted by seanfhear

Charlie Kirk was becoming even more moderate as he got older

Originally Posted by seanfhear

Charlie Kirk was becoming more moderate as he grew older.

Originally Posted by seanfhear

The more you watch of Charlie Kirk, you will see how moderate he was, and was becoming.

Are you trying to convince yourself or everybody else.

**sbgawa** · 22/09/2025, 2:05 PM

The problem with America is ita a country of extremes, youve got the woke Democrats more interested in Trans rights than actually putting in a proper functioning social welfare system and the extreme right who think carrying Assault rifles is an inalienable god given right that any amount of school shootings is worth putting up with.
The voters dont have much choice of where to go and neither side looks great, youd have to think there is room for an independent candidate for 2028 , there is certainly plenty of room in the middle.

**pineapple stu** · 22/09/2025, 2:18 PM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

The voters dont have much choice of where to go and neither side looks great, youd have to think there is room for an independent candidate for 2028 , there is certainly plenty of room in the middle.

**nigel-harps1954** · 22/09/2025, 2:19 PM

No harm, but this thread should just be closed before everyone dies of moderate wokeism.

Its gone beyond a joke, and there's very little constructive discussion on here.

**pineapple stu** · 22/09/2025, 2:24 PM

I don't think it should be closed. I do think either people stop feeding the trolls or the troll gets banned. That would allow discussion to resume.

**seanfhear** · 22/09/2025, 2:29 PM

Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

Are you trying to convince yourself or everybody else.

Just watch what Charlie Kirk was all about with his interactions with ordinary People.

**seanfhear** · 22/09/2025, 2:30 PM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

The problem with America is ita a country of extremes, youve got the woke Democrats more interested in Trans rights than actually putting in a proper functioning social welfare system and the extreme right who think carrying Assault rifles is an inalienable god given right that any amount of school shootings is worth putting up with.
The voters dont have much choice of where to go and neither side looks great, youd have to think there is room for an independent candidate for 2028 , there is certainly plenty of room in the middle.

Charlie Kirk would have been that candidate in the future.

**Razors left peg** · 22/09/2025, 4:11 PM

From our great leader..."Charlie did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponents. And I don't want the best for them. I can't stand my opponents."

https://x.com/Ronxyz00/status/1969898536692224112

This lunatic is supposed to be leader of the entire country and not just the leader of his supporters. But tell me again how the Left are the problem in the US

**seanfhear** · 22/09/2025, 4:17 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

From our great leader..."Charlie did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponents. And I don't want the best for them. I can't stand my opponents."

https://x.com/Ronxyz00/status/1969898536692224112

This lunatic is supposed to be leader of the entire country and not just the leader of his supporters. But tell me again how the Left are the problem in the US

Charlie Kirk was a much much much better Man that Donald Trump ~ That is for sure.

**dahamsta** · 22/09/2025, 4:41 PM

@Nesta99 is right, I've had enough of this crap. @seanshear and @nesta99 banned permanantly for trolling. I'm middle-aged now, I've better things to do with my time than deal with idiots and smart-arses. Trolls are scum, the only people that thinks they're funny is themselves. F*ck them.

**pineapple stu** · 22/09/2025, 4:56 PM

Nesta? Mistaken identity there, no? He's right but banned - did you mean someone else? Nesta is a very sensible poster

**Razors left peg** · 22/09/2025, 4:58 PM

I didnt think anyone was Trolling tbh, I just thought Seanfhear is a dope

**sbgawa** · 22/09/2025, 6:02 PM

Originally Posted by dahamsta

@Nesta99 is right, I've had enough of this crap. @seanshear and @nesta99 banned permanantly for trolling. I'm middle-aged now, I've better things to do with my time than deal with idiots and smart-arses. Trolls are scum, the only people that thinks they're funny is themselves. F*ck them.

Nesta?? Apart from questionable knowledge of good football indont think he earned a ban here

**dahamsta** · 22/09/2025, 7:05 PM

That was a mistake, I corrected it immediately afterwards. I meant to say mark12345.

**Nesta99** · 22/09/2025, 7:38 PM

Ahhh I love you guys! Group hug! I might have banned me, though I was genuinely trying to get a handle on the mindset, see if there was any common ground at all. But there obviously was just an entrenched nonsensical bias, being nice maybe a confabulation. Having enaged with the trolls I didnt like being called an idiot, but I didnt need to thow it up at dahamsta either. A pm would have been the thing to do if I had really been significantly annoyed. So apologies there even if mistaken identity.

**Razors left peg** · 23/09/2025, 7:58 PM

Trumps speech to the UN today is quite something!

**CraftyToePoke** · 23/09/2025, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

I didnt think anyone was Trolling tbh, I just thought Seanfhear is a dope

I'd agree. Just not at, or anywhere near, the level of the conversation. The inability to understand not only the points made but even the question asked was in itself astounding.

Mark12345 is no better but he has the cop on when faced with people capable of critical analysis and competent counterpoint, to just go away for a month before returning banging the same stupid drum again about something else.

Not a lot between them & neither any loss IMO, here or elsewhere on the site.

I'd dropped out pages back over them, pointless. Fair play to those who argued on.

**SkStu** · 23/09/2025, 10:53 PM

is Seanfhear banned permanently from all subforums? jeez, it looks like it. Politics deffo, everywhere else he is harmless enough...

**Razors left peg** · 24/09/2025, 12:25 AM

Must admit the perma ban does not sit well with me. The fella has been a member since 2007. He wasn't abusive to anyone. I don't think hes the smartest lad in the world and he was dug in on stupidity... but its a bit ironic to ban someone during a conversation about free speech.

Should add that its not that Id particularly want him back either, just something doesnt feel right about it