American Politics

**mark12345** · 12/09/2025, 5:08 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Patience he says. The guy who instantly posted that the Left loves murder right after the shooting before we had a clue who did it. When it turns out it was a white guy from a good old Republican family its "lets not be so quick to judge".

Absolute fcukin hypocrite

This, coming from a guy who, according to your recent posts, would rather see people lose their lives on the streets of America than place the national guard there to protect them. Beyond laughable.

**tetsujin1979** · 12/09/2025, 5:14 PM

You should read this report from the anti defamation League "Murder and Extremism in the United States in 2022"
https://www.adl.org/resources/report...ed-states-2022

**Razors left peg** · 12/09/2025, 5:17 PM

Originally Posted by mark12345

This, coming from a guy who, according to your recent posts, would rather see people lose their lives on the streets of America than place the national guard there to protect them. Beyond laughable.

Tell me in what country its ever was a good idea to have the military patrolling the streets? The police are there for a reason. Turning the military on your own people is only ever done by Dictators wanting to hold onto power

**mark12345** · 12/09/2025, 7:13 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Tell me in what country its ever was a good idea to have the military patrolling the streets? The police are there for a reason. Turning the military on your own people is only ever done by Dictators wanting to hold onto power

The military are soldiers who fight in wars. This is the National Guard, men and women who have gone into hurricanes, floods, fires to save people's lives. And you call them the SS? You're labeling of them is a disgrace.

**Razors left peg** · 12/09/2025, 7:50 PM

Originally Posted by mark12345

The military are soldiers who fight in wars. This is the National Guard, men and women who have gone into hurricanes, floods, fires to save people's lives. And you call them the SS? You're labeling of them is a disgrace.

The National Guard are Military, as are the Marines who Trump illegally deployed on the streets of LA. The National Guard are not a police force, they are not trained to be a police force.

Right now we also have Trumps Gestapo (ICE) snatching people off the streets. They are masked and do not identify themselves like law enforcement are supposed to do.

Again I ask you, point to any other country in the world where military patrolling the streets is a good thing? It does not happen in any democratic country, but has been used in Fascist regimes the world over. If we want better policing, then train the police better. Do you want us to have to go through military check points when we are out and about? Military checking your papers to make sure you are a pure American?

**tetsujin1979** · 12/09/2025, 8:03 PM

Originally Posted by mark12345

The military are soldiers who fight in wars. This is the National Guard, men and women who have gone into hurricanes, floods, fires to save people's lives. And you call them the SS? You're labeling of them is a disgrace.

So were the black and tans. Deploying them on the streets here didn't end well.

**The Fly** · 12/09/2025, 8:06 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Listen, agree with you. If we were to list all of the contributing factors to serious crime and gun crime, they’d be all the socio-economic causes you list and political stripes of the state or city leaders would be far down the list and, at best, an indirect cause. The only reasonable I asked the questions and played devils advocate was because someone raised the connection first as “the reason” and you happened to be the last one to post something on it.

Together with upbringing, family and culture. I know this is discussion centred on America but I’d say those are generally the most important contributory factors for crime (unless they’re coming under the socio prefix).