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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    And what do you base that on exactly?

    The BBC is listened to worldwide for a reason.

    Mark Levin...isn't.
    You apparently didn't know there was evidence (once in the hands of the J6 commission) which went missing? And the BBC is listened to worldwide. You're right, they do have a worldwide audience - but they choose what to report and what not to. Like I said, they once were very reputable, but not anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    And what do you base that on exactly?

    The BBC is listened to worldwide for a reason.

    Mark Levin...isn't.
    Do you believe the media tells all of the truth all of the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    The way they reported the news.
    Can you elaborate on that?

    You're not very good at elucidating on your points beyond the most basic of Trump-like rebuffs, are you?


    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    Do you believe the media tells all of the truth all of the time?
    What sort of bull**** question is that?

    I certainly believe some media outlets are more equal than others. BBC >>>> Mark Levin for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    He's definitely been that way in the past. Hopefully he is changing
    He is unashamedly Democrat but does a great job of pointing out the flaws with all sides of the argument. He is a hawk for Israel though. Anyway, for someone who doesnt mind acknowledging that there is fault for sh!tty American politics all over the place, id recommend the stand-up. Its a good laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Can you elaborate on that?

    You're not very good at elucidating on your points beyond the most basic of Trump-like rebuffs, are you?



    What sort of bull**** question is that?

    I certainly believe some media outlets are more equal than others. BBC >>>> Mark Levin for example.
    My basic stance on the media, here in America anyways, is as follows:

    About 11 - 12 weeks ago the media was telling Americans that Trump is Hitler.
    Yet since that time, many of the leading lights on the Democratic side have met with and shook hands with him.
    And the American people are supposed to take the media seriously?

    As I write I am watching Mark Zuckerberg at Trump's inauguration. He, Bezos and the CEO of Google have all backed Trump in recent days.
    But this is the guy who is compared to Hitler? So hopefully you can see that the media is far more propaganda than truth these days, and indeed has been for a long time.
    Most Americans have this opinion - you'll just have to trust me on that one.
    And I could go all the way back to Russia Collusion which held America to ransom for the bulk of Trump's first term. Crap of the highest order it was.
    And then there was the Hunter laptop which the media played a big part in suppressing.........there are many many examples of media lies and bias in America.
    And none of them, to my knowledge, have ever come out after the fact and apologized for getting their stories wrong. And their mistakes always seem to benefit the Democrats, never the other way around.

    Ultimately I would much prefer if (in the words of Rodney King) we could all just get along and turn over a new leaf for the New Year.
    Maybe that is wishful thinking, but hopefully not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    My basic stance on the media, here in America anyways, is as follows:

    About 11 - 12 weeks ago the media was telling Americans that Trump is Hitler.
    We were discussing the BBC.

    Can you show me an example of the BBC saying that Trump is Hitler?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    The BBC WAS one of the most renowned journalistic sites in the world (with a major emphasis on "was"). But that was many years ago now.
    Correct ~ Was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    Why indeed? I tend to think that pardons are reserved for people who have done wrong.
    Certainly for people who have a lot to cover-up and did wrong ~ Why else would they need pardons ? !

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    Zuckerberg, Bezos, etc, are all acting in their own self interest. He's shown before that he can make a lot of money for people who show him favour, and make life difficult for anyone who doesn't.
    There's going to be a lot of focus on things like AI in the near future, and none of them want to run the risk of sanctions against their own company. So now we're in the situation where CEOs have to make nice with the President so he doesn't ruin their companies, just because he can.
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    Well - here we go again. 4 more years.

    For a nice change of pace :

    Merica's new assistant Sec of State. Godspeed to anyone living over there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Correct ~ Was.
    Why is it correct seanfhear?

    Do you also have articles from the BBC likening Trump to Hitler?

    Or any reason for your view at all?

    Hmm?


    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    Well - here we go again. 4 more years.
    You say four more years - but genuine question. Will he last four years?

    Wouldn't surprise me if a bookies somewhere was offering odds on him not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    Well - here we go again. 4 more years.

    For a nice change of pace :

    Merica's new assistant Sec of State. Godspeed to anyone living over there.

    Obviously walls work ~ ~ That's why everybody has them in their houses, and locks on their windows and doors ! !

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post

    You say four more years - but genuine question. Will he last four years?

    Wouldn't surprise me if a bookies somewhere was offering odds on him not.
    Getting him impeached is a long shot. What would get him impeached? He's a convicted Felon as it is.

    At least he's rowing back on this gender ideology nonsense anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Obviously walls work ~ ~ That's why everybody has them in their houses, and locks on their windows and doors ! !
    Mother of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    Getting him impeached is a long shot. What would get him impeached? He's a convicted Felon as it is.
    I'm thinking more of him getting shot again

    Or even dying of old age and McDonald's

    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    At least he's rowing back on this gender ideology nonsense anyway!
    I wouldn't joke at the nasty stuff to have come out of that ideology in fairness...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    We were discussing the BBC.

    Can you show me an example of the BBC saying that Trump is Hitler?
    I cannot. I did not make that claim (it was about the media in America).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    Mother of God.
    The Vatican is surrounded by a wall !

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Zuckerberg, Bezos, etc, are all acting in their own self interest. He's shown before that he can make a lot of money for people who show him favour, and make life difficult for anyone who doesn't.
    There's going to be a lot of focus on things like AI in the near future, and none of them want to run the risk of sanctions against their own company. So now we're in the situation where CEOs have to make nice with the President so he doesn't ruin their companies, just because he can.
    Without a doubt, pretty much everything you say here is true.
    But the fact that those guys are rubbing shoulders with this awful, awful tyrant (which the media would have us believe he is) and then the media doesn't hold them accountable afterwards. Surely that shows us that the media (which once held governments and politicians accountable on behalf of the people) now stand for absolutely nothing other than their own financial bottom line. Propagandists in other words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I'm thinking more of him getting shot again
    You'd have to be absolutely certain that he was shot at in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    We were discussing the BBC.

    Can you show me an example of the BBC saying that Trump is Hitler?
    Like I say, I do not have an example of the BBC saying this, but now that we're talking about it, would not it have been proper of the BBC to have published an Op Ed refuting these suggestions by those in the American media. Can we at least agree on that?

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