I think part of what I said to Stu was explaining that yes, given how a lot of us see Trump, it is difficult for us to fathom how any decent, conscientious person could defend him. And sure, it's fair to ask that of his defenders - do they just not see what we see? Or is it just not a big deal to them? But to say Stu's actions are disgusting was beyond what I think should be acceptable on this site - what are we? YBIG? (I don't go to YBIG, but I've heard it's a toxic post-apocalyptic wasteland)
After the abandonment of the Kurds, I actually wasn't in the mood for debating on this thread for a while.
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