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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I'd agree with that.

    I'd be more interested to see what differences there are between Mick's Ireland and Martin's Ireland. We know we don't have much strength in depth these days - but the style of play under O'Neill was surely the biggest bone of contention.

    Going to be hard to judge that against Gibraltar, with all respect to them, but still, I think it'll be the first real point of interest, not the new call-ups
    Oneill's style of football was so out-dated, that regardless of the opposition we couldn't hold the ball. The USA youth team schooled us in Lansdowne.
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    Question actually - when was the last time we had an English fourth-tier player in a squad? Let's ignore questions as to whether Dutch second tier/LoI/Scottish second is equivalent

    I can't think of any, but maybe one of those summer tours?

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    Good question... I thought maybe Alan O'Brien - he won his 5 caps in 2006 and 2007 having spent 05/06 on loan with L2 Carlisle for part of that period, but he was back at Newcastle a few months before his debut. Would it have counted as he was technically with a higher club anyway? I don't recall anybody in the last 30+ years.
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    I think that would have counted, but yeah, as you say, his loan spell ended a few months before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Question actually - when was the last time we had an English fourth-tier player in a squad? Let's ignore questions as to whether Dutch second tier/LoI/Scottish second is equivalent

    I can't think of any, but maybe one of those summer tours?
    Callum O'Dowda in May 2016, he was still with Oxford in League Two at the time, and moved to Bristol City in the Championship two months later
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    hmm, tricky one. was David Forde called up when on loan to portsmouth? i think they were l2 at the time.

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    No on Forde I think; he joined Portsmouth after the Euros, but I don't think he made a squad again after being dropped after the Belarus friendly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    No on Forde I think; he joined Portsmouth after the Euros, but I don't think he made a squad again after being dropped after the Belarus friendly?
    tets answered whilst i was mulling over. you're right on forde i'd say, didn't he get a bad injury around that time and gary rogers made the squad ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Callum O'Dowda in May 2016, he was still with Oxford in League Two at the time, and moved to Bristol City in the Championship two months later
    Technically, Oxford were promoted to League One in May 2016

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    Randolph
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    Quote Originally Posted by gally View Post
    Randolph
    Coleman Duffy Egan Doherty
    Browne Arter Hourihane
    O'Dowda Maguire Robinson/Curtis
    That's actually a really good team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    No on Forde I think; he joined Portsmouth after the Euros, but I don't think he made a squad again after being dropped after the Belarus friendly?
    Peter Murphy from Carlisle? Didn't he get a cap on the 07 tour of the USA?
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    Yes - but they were third tier at the time. Newly-promoted, but just missed the play-offs

    (Could be worth a split to another thread actually)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Question actually - when was the last time we had an English fourth-tier player in a squad? Let's ignore questions as to whether Dutch second tier/LoI/Scottish second is equivalent

    I can't think of any, but maybe one of those summer tours?
    It should have been Grealish, if O'Neill had called him up for the US summer tour that year he was on loan he would never have switched

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    Jack Grealish? Never played fourth tier; he was on loan at Notts County in the third tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Jack Grealish? Never played fourth tier; he was on loan at Notts County in the third tier.
    Fair enough, I thought Notts County were in League 2 at the time

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    Hard to understand how McCarthy and Judge make the squad while Richie Towell, a regular starter in the Championship, doesn't.

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    I think Gerry Peyton was in the Fourth Division when he went to the World Cup incidentally

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    Nope; second tier. He was capped as a third-tier player, but not as a fourth-tier player

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    I thought it might have been Cascarino, but he was with Gillingham in the old division three (ie league one) when he was called up

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