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    There's still time if it doesn't last.

    Please let it last. I am so tired of Ireland being rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    We didn't even have time for BOOMERS to credit him with our upswing in form.
    Nah, he had to go after the Armenia and Ukraine games.
    Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    He really needs to find someone this time who is willing to commit to the job for two years. Constantly chopping and changing the coaching staff can't be helping things.
    So in order to make sure that someone stays long term do we take a worse coach? Kenny is obviously picking ambitious, highly qualified coaches for the job. His core team of Keith Andrews and Dean Kiely are there long term so I dont think there is too much problem with others changing. Ideally it would be better if they stuck around for more than a couple of games but Id rather he still go after top class coaches than settle for the likes of a Terry Connor.

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    Stephen Rice is in the set up already and might be a good mix of talent and career stage in that he is probably a few years away from getting a top coaching or mgmt job.

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    Stephen Kenny's son Eoin called up to play for Northern Ireland:

    https://www.the42.ie/stephen-kenny-son-5821185-Jul2022/

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    As tenuous qualification links go, that's about as tenuous as it gets. Was only born in NI because his dad was managing a club at that time that is geographically located in the jurisdiction but doesn't even play in that jurisdiction's league!

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    Obefemi is the same
    I wouldn't read anything into it
    Probably not good enough for our U18s i guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trequartista20 View Post
    Stephen Kenny's son Eoin called up to play for Northern Ireland:

    https://www.the42.ie/stephen-kenny-son-5821185-Jul2022/
    One for the Kenny the elder: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/...ons/persuasion
    Develop persuasion skills for the workplace

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    I hope his son is genuine about been prepared to represent the north at senior level and not just waiting to jump to us if he gets a call up for one of our sides. Otherwise it's just messing the north around which isn't right and which always annoys me when lads like the rangers youth player 3 or 4 years ago do it to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    I hope his son is genuine about been prepared to represent the north at senior level and not just waiting to jump to us if he gets a call up for one of our sides. Otherwise it's just messing the north around which isn't right and which always annoys me when lads like the rangers youth player 3 or 4 years ago do it to us.
    That's exactly what he will do if the opportunity arises

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    As tenuous qualification links go, that's about as tenuous as it gets. Was only born in NI because his dad was managing a club at that time that is geographically located in the jurisdiction but doesn't even play in that jurisdiction's league!
    And never actually lived in NI. They lived in Fahan, just outside Buncrana in Donegal.

    Quite a lot of north Donegal people were born in Altnagelvin hospital in Derry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    Obefemi is the same
    I wouldn't read anything into it
    Probably not good enough for our U18s i guess?
    Obafemi was born in Ireland to Nigerian parents and grew up in England but still has family here. Kenny was born in the North to Irish parents, one of whom has stated on numerous occasions how proud he is to manage Ireland, and grew up in Ireland. I think it is a little different. Obafemi and his nationality is a lot less clear cut than I'm sure young Kenny's is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    That's exactly what he will do if the opportunity arises
    Yeah it's awful messing. Very disrespectful to the north if no intention to stay in the system

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Yeah it's awful messing. Very disrespectful to the north if no intention to stay in the system
    Disrespectful by who? Do you really think that NI are not aware that if he has half a chance of an Ireland cap that he won't jump? It is an absolute charade on both sides and NI have instigated by giving him the call up in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Disrespectful by who? Do you really think that NI are not aware that if he has half a chance of an Ireland cap that he won't jump? It is an absolute charade on both sides and NI have instigated by giving him the call up in the first place.

    Disrespectful of the player to the north. The north can ask him in good faith it's then up to him to say thanks but it's not for me if he can't see himself as a senior player for them. That's the players responsibility to own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Disrespectful of the player to the north. The north can ask him in good faith it's then up to him to say thanks but it's not for me if he can't see himself as a senior player for them. That's the players responsibility to own.
    I can't get on board with this. The North are selecting him and are fully aware of the risk here. They crib and cry about having put resources and effort into the likes of McClean and Sykes are underage level but this lad is more of a flight risk than both of them - there can't be any doubt in their minds about that.

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    does put some pressure on the kid as well to make any decision, even if it's just to accept the call up, which he doesn't really need.
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    Surely they've spoken to him about it in advance; they've hardly sprung it on him as a surprise?

    I've no real problems with underage players using their options to get a chance at international football or to experience something different. How many NI U18 internationals are actually going to make a career in the game anyway?

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    Is he any good? surely he is more likely to get senior international football with the north then the republic?

    I've no beef once he doesn't play a game for their seniors and then defect to us

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    Big whoop if the lad goes in to train and gets minutes but then turns them down if they ask him down the line about switching. Tons of players are invited into training camps like these by countries with the intentions of the host country getting a better look at the player.

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