I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
Has Kenny basically three games left to save his job or is it already just a matter of seeing the contract out and goodbye.
No, he asked 'What's the answer to the anthem question?' and I answered with a flippant joke from which he took four words that suggested I had said getting rid of the the anthem.
I agree with that, and I think the anthem is more important to the fans - it's a ritualistic, bonding and performative aspect of fandom. We feel united and that our singing helps the players. But it's not addressing the question we started with pages back of whether the players should sing the anthem.
Ah, hey, c'mon now. We want lads to declare for us.
Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
- E Tattsyrup.
Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
- E Tattsyrup.
OK, fairy nuff. More fool me for taking your posts seriously!
But I am slightly surprised there isn't some sort of psychological "right way" to approach the anthem. Maybe it's the case that international football is lower profile than club football, and the anthem is specifically at the former, whereas penalty shoot-outs (for example) are in both, so the psychology of penalties has been well studied but not that of national anthems.
And that is a good point, in fairness. For years I've banged on about the need for a team psychologist, and maybe there's something in the anthem that ties to identity, values, team spirit and so on that a psychologist could draw on as a motivator or for self-belief. Allowing, of course, for players who line out for us because the England call never came and who probably are less motivated by 800 years of oppression set to a good tune than to a boot deal.
I don't think the anthem itself has any intrinsic value - it is what it is, an innoccuous nationalist marching song adopted by the government only when the people had started using it as a de facto anthem (i.e. when it was politically safe to declare it the anthem!). But maybe there are extrinsic values that could be explored - not what the anthem means literally or figuratively but what the meaning it holds to the fans (and how this is communicated to the players), and to the ten players beside you; or that it could be a mental cue against which tick off your pre-match instructions, or the last sixty seconds to get into the zone.
Anything that gives us an edge right now would be welcome. Whether that's Amhrán na bhFiann or any other stirring song. I kinda fancy AC/DC Thunder for the shock value. Or just to really confound the opposition, the entire team singing (and doing the moves to) Whigfield's Saturday Night.
(That's what you get for taking me seriously!)
Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
- E Tattsyrup.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
I remember hearing complaints about players not singing the anthem back in the Jack days. Its always been a thing. Even some Irish born players dont sing it. Could be wrong, but I seem to remember Glenn Whelan saying something like he didnt sing it because he was getting his mind right for the match. Not everyone has to be John Hayes bawling his eyes out while singing.
To blame any manager for the players not singing an anthem is pathetic.
The anthems should be an irrelevance really, but they do become part of it.
I know it's a different sport, but you can see how the Haka, and now the other team's response to it, has become a tool for teams.
"How will X respond to the Haka?" should be an utter irrelevance when you think about it, but it has been made significant as part of....what...mind games?
Speak of the devil - article on RTÉ today about a psychological study of the penalty shoot-out. Includes, among other things, the bits I mentioned above about walking backwards after placing the ball and taking a moment to compose yourself after the ref blows the whistle for the kick to be taken.
Every World Cup/Euros/Copa America shoot-out since 1976 has been analysed.
Similar study on the national anthems is pending
And what inference can we draw from the Spanish anthem having no lyrics? A way to solve the internal language and identity dividers? There could be an interesting thread here to spin out.
Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
- E Tattsyrup.
If they had words to belt out at the start last night, maybe they wouldn't have lost.
It's Luis Enrique's fault there's no words to the Spanish national anthem.
Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).
The better team lost on penalties.
Doesn't matter they passed the ball around and had 70% possession. They'll feel like the real winners on Sunday night.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
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