Stephen Kenny

**DeLorean** · 30/01/2019, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

not sure how much this all has to do with the U21 Championship...

We probably need a Stephen Kenny thread in the Ireland forum.

<MOD EDIT - links added to polls>
First vote of confidence - https://foot.ie/threads/265641-Poll-...-of-confidence
Second referendum - https://foot.ie/threads/269901-Stephen-Kenny-vote-of-confidence-Second-referendum
Third referendum - https://foot.ie/threads/278358-Steph...ird-referendum

**SkStu** · 30/01/2019, 12:56 PM

I wonder if he will call up Luca Connell?

**DeLorean** · 05/03/2019, 10:33 AM

Interview with Kenny - https://www.irishexaminer.com/breaki...te-908749.html

**tetsujin1979** · 05/03/2019, 10:46 AM

From that article

from the years (of players born in) 1998 or 1999 we have no centre-forwards or wingers in England,” he said. “We actually have none.

Connor Ronan and Josh Barrett both born in 1998.
Ronan is playing in Slovakia at the moment so Kenny is technically correct that he's "not in England".

Also mentions the number of centre halves in England, but no mention of the centre half playing in Italy.

**Olé Olé** · 05/03/2019, 12:05 PM

He has name-checked Nolan before. I don't think he's ignoring him.

**tetsujin1979** · 05/03/2019, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Olé Olé

He has name-checked Nolan before. I don't think he's ignoring him.

I don't think he is either. Just thought it was an odd observation to mention the number of centre halves in England, but omit the one in Italy.

**liamoo11** · 05/03/2019, 1:17 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

From that article

Connor Ronan and Josh Barrett both born in 1998.
Ronan is playing in Slovakia at the moment so Kenny is technically correct that he's "not in England".

Also mentions the number of centre halves in England, but no mention of the centre half playing in Italy.

Yeah well said some proper spoofing going on here to soften us up for any bad results that might come. Cian Flanagan is a winger at crystal palace and Keena is a striker at hearts(not back home) Fowler striker at Cardiff. So 5 players that lads can name on a random forum not on the 21s managers radar??

**DeLorean** · 05/03/2019, 1:18 PM

Kenny out!

**paul_oshea** · 05/03/2019, 1:40 PM

If only naming players on a forum amounted to cappage and stardom.

**Closed Account** · 05/03/2019, 2:26 PM

Ah come on, I doubt he meant it literally? Surely a bit of hyperbole to highlight that there is a lack of them in that age group.
And even if you want to take him at his word, it could be argued

Josh Barrett (AM)
Kian Flanagan (CM)
Aidan Keena Scotland
Quivi Fowler (AM) Wales
Connor Ronan (CM) Slovakia

There's nothing in his comments to suggest that these players aren't on his radar.
Anthony Scully is a winger in England but again, it's reasonable to take his words as hyperbole.
Gerry McDonagh (0 goals in Conference), doubt he'll be involved.

**Kingdom** · 05/03/2019, 2:39 PM

Playing Devils Advocate here, but it's clear he's talking about Irish-born lads who were born in those years, moved over, and have stayed over. I say it because he clearly talks about those "who have come back",
Does that change the argument?

**tetsujin1979** · 05/03/2019, 2:46 PM

Originally Posted by Kingdom

Playing Devils Advocate here, but it's clear he's talking about Irish-born lads who were born in those years, moved over, and have stayed over. I say it because he clearly talks about those "who have come back",
Does that change the argument?

I did think that too after re-reading it, but if it is the case does that means that he's not considering Barrett, Ronan, etc as "ours"?

**paul_oshea** · 05/03/2019, 2:48 PM

Ya but that contradicts his point in the article about still including and integrating foreign born children(british in this case)

**Kingdom** · 05/03/2019, 2:57 PM

No, I would think he's making a specific point to the type of player that have been generated here, and made the grade (so to speak) in our biggest market.

Bear in mind, it's not a full transcript of the interview, so I would say there is a bit of lost context to be honest. I would suspect the leading question from the journalist which gives the context to his answer has been omitted.

**Eminence Grise** · 04/04/2020, 11:30 AM

Yes, that's possible without being a nightmare scenario.... There are no guarantees that a vaccine will be trialled and ready in 15 months, or that existing drugs can be used to alleviate mild to severe symptoms (ICU level symptoms are a different kettle of fish entirely - pneumonia and sepsis are the real killers there), or that it is a seasonal virus, or that contracting it will give you immunity, or that outbreaks won't flare up as soon as restrictions are lifted.

That said, I'm an optimist (no, really I am) and I think some medical trial will come good sooner rather later.

**nigel-harps1954** · 04/04/2020, 4:11 PM

https://www.offtheball.com/sport/the...s-ended-994972

Well, it looks as though that is that. Good luck Mick. Correct decision.

**tommy_c12000** · 04/04/2020, 4:42 PM

Fantastic news if true. Mick has done nothing to warrant staying on longer, and is being paid way over the odds. Martin O’Neill had already qualified us for playoffs. Squad has regressed with short term mentality of Mick (not his fault) and quality of football has also regressed (if that was possible). Great (and decisive) decision by FAI

**tetsujin1979** · 04/04/2020, 5:02 PM

Confirmed by the FAI
https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/fai-...up-ireland-job

**brine3** · 04/04/2020, 6:03 PM

Originally Posted by elatedscum

For what it’s worth, I think the performances were better under McCarthy than the last 2 and a half years of O’Neill.

An impossible situation for everyone involved.

Positives of the reign, established the likes of McGoldrick, Egan, Stevens into the side.

We finished second in our World Cup 2018 qualification group.
We finished third in our Euro 2020 qualification group.

Not a fan of how either of them got on, to be honest. Let's not pretend that Mick was much better.

Stephen Kenny will be better value for money, that's for sure. I'd say that was the FAI's main consideration at this stage.