I was actually serious about Rooney. Has played at the highest level, has had an impossible task at Derby. but done well and has an Irish connection. Would be a left field choice, but who else is there?Originally Posted by seanfhear
Funny enough, I actually see him as more of a Corbyn type. Buried in principles and has a hardcore legion of fans who think the sun shines from his hole despite him having shown no obvious ability to have any success in the position he holds.
His interviews put me to sleep. I wonder does he do the same for the players.
Steven Reid. Learned his trade at Palace and now successfully at Forest and was with Clarke to get Scotland to the Euros. Heard recently he was up at 6am driving from the Manchester to London daily when at Palace. He’s a born grafter, evidently dedicated to learn and would run through a brick wall for the team when he was playing, which has to install more fight and confidence than the current alternative. If Gerard, Rooney & Giggs get cited as relative successes after early opportunities, why not him?
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Mick Megan was way better than Kenny and laid a huge amount of the groundwork that was taken to the next level by Giles… as for Kenny he’s had more that a decent time to make it work but it hasn’t and he’s also delivered some of the worst results in our whole history , and having come out and said we’d win the group now makes him look like a delusional fantasist
I wouldn't mind using these games to experiment. It woUld be fine to change 5 players and lose 1-0. But we didn't do that. We lost a team which looks to me like a first 11, despite me having no idea what his first 11 is.
I don't think he does either.
After two and half years, and 25 games, in charge, Kenny really should not be "experimenting". He should know his players, their strengths and weaknesses, and how to get the best out of them.
At the very least he should have a plan for attempting a comeback that's better than "push Shane Duffy up front"
You’d like to think that we could have a manager that would at least come in to the consideration of a mid table English championship club if they were looking for a manager. There is no way Stephen Kenny would be even coming under consideration for such a club. I am afraid it looks like the Kenny experiment is over.
If Michael O’Neill was interested he would be a good shout but would he be interested ?
Exactly that's why you win this match, with balls and strong personality, and Kenny can't transfer this attribute yet to the players. He transferred some passing from the back, some tidy movements from the back but that's just all his good improvement. No mixture of tempos no urgency, and a crystal jaw.
Lee Carsley would be my choice to replace him I think.
The English u21 manager, who if he does well may be in line to take over the senior job in due course?
Can't see us prising him away
Well he’s Irish so he might, he’s far more likely than an employed manager in the PL/CH.
It’s the only name that would make any sense replacing Kenny if we are replacing him as the other managers will take us back to the Stone Age most likely.
He'd hardly move straight from one job to the other - a position as a club manager would come first, or even, as senior manager of a weaker team might be just what he is looking for.
But if he does a good job he'll have options, and Ireland are not an attractive option at the moment I guess.
Southgate moved from 21s to senior.
If I were him, I'm not sure I'd take the chance of stepping out of a succession path to a better job really. It'd be a tough sell for us I think.
Southgate was a household name in England before his appointment to the seniors. Im not sure the FA could sell lee carsley to their sponsors, fans and media.
I think he would take the Irish job if offered, but I would prefer Michael O Neil.
True, but his only club job saw him get Middlesbrough relegated. Not especially high-profile for the England role.
I think all of the below would be better than Stephen.
Rooney
Carsley
Michael O neill
Anthony Barry
why would any of them take this job?
For me this weekend could be the game that will define Kenny with Ireland, we already know now that Duffy went against the game plan meaning it’s time for Kenny to be ruthless, if he keeps Duffy after that and we end up losing at home to Scotland than that will surely be the end of the road for Kenny and tbh the way things are going he needs to win the match as Scotland themselves are going into this match with question marks too (for me Clarke for Scotland reminds me a lot of Martin O’Neills WCQ campaign in 2016-2018 as in he’s getting results but those results are papering over a lot of cracks in regards to the way Scotland play). I’ve been a Kenny fan all along but last night was worrying considering he made all the same mistakes in Yeravan.
Maybe it shouldn’t be a consideration, but it would be helpful to have a manager who was able to attract dual nationals - especially English born players who have drifted away from us in recent years. Having a profile and creating a sense that we’re an international option with a prospect of getting to tournaments. I know that this will offend some people who don’t want mercenaries playing for us etc, but if a player has options it’s a consideration. Not suggesting that it’s a major consideration, but it would be an advantage when international teams are now competing to attract talent.
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