Dublin City will have bitten the dust, or at least be operating under a different name, long before this club goes to the wall.
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Ringo you sound like a very bitter man. Look closer to home for wrong doing. I know for a fact there is an ex manager of CHF who was left short of money. Fingal Co Council were left waiting a long time to be paid by Dublin City for Morton Stadium, not sure if they ever stumped up. I also remember Dublin City having to play Norwich in the AUL because there was money due to Home Farm in Whitehall. Norwich match was eventually played in Tolka.
Always look on the bright side of life
I read in yesterday's Herald that Rovers owe Terry Palmer money. This seems to be in direct contradiction of the UEFA License requirement which states:
No Payables Overdue towards Employees
The Licence Applicant must prove that it has had no payables overdue arising from contractual agreements with its employees
This is on page 105 of the Manual if anyone wants to check it out. It doesn't seem to give the licensing committee much room for intrepetation.
Rovers fans arguing with Dublin City fans. Have things really gotten THAT bad for the hoops
twas a mere question... which you answeredOriginally Posted by Slash/ED
arent we all just magic little monkeys...
I'm not a bitter man. In fact I’m like a pebble in the stream, allowing these things to flow over me. I'd rather be in First division, in our position than be in Rovers position. We could have over spent in a bid to stay up , but we didn't.Their welcome to Roddy. my whole argument all along about the Roddy thing , was the carry on behind the scenes, not the fact of Roddy leaving. On the Joe Duffy show he told the nation That "rocky knew why he left". We’ve heard nothing from him since. Roddy's a joke, the rovers fans are only realizing that now. There are a lot more important things in my life at the moment, than rovers or Roddy. I enjoy debating eircom league soccer. But some fans are living in cloud cuckoo land. Rovers is a name that companies have used over the years to rip fans, the taxman & taxpayers off. I can’t see the club coming up with 13k every week .
DIFFERENT CLUBS. Are you that bloody thick that you cannot see the difference? There IS a clear difference between a club re-naming itself over and over again in a pathetic attempt to jump on the franchise bandwagon, and a club folding and a new one emerging. Major difference.as apposed to Cork Hibernians Cork City
See the bit in bold- thats where your argument collapses. Roddy did nothing wrong. Immoral maybe, the act of unmitigated *****, maybe, but he did not break any rules.No it s not & no it doeent happen all the time in the business, in most cases its against the law. Its not a football team thing, it happened between two business's, that are supposed to regulatedby The eircom League. It wouldn't happen in any other country in the world.
As for Roddy: everyone knows the guy is a cowboy. Home Farm City hired him on a non-contract basis, because he was pulling a fast one on Carlisle- CHF were willing partners in that dodgy deal, and then they cry innocent when he does it to them?! FFS, most eL fans could have predicted Roddy would do something like that at some stage. Your gloating is just sickening, it really is. Now get over yourself Ringo- go burn some photos of Roddy or stick his face on your teddy and stick needles in it, but quit boring everyone with your anti-Roddy obsession.
Attack the post not the poster. you seem more upset & obsessed than me
Don't even try and claim you don't care about Roddy or Rovers
Not just that, I think you can't let go over it. Otherwise why would you have continuously brought up Roddy's departure from your "club" in a thread that has sweet FA got to do with your club, and very little to do with Roddy himself
The home truths you are pointing out are not "truths" at all. They are bitter, nasty digs at a club who you (justifiably/ understandably) dislike.
How is pointing out that the don't have a snowballs chance in hell of paying off the 2.5million or restructering in the next three months , bitter, nasty digs. What un-truths about Rovers have i posted? They're comments on how i see things going. How can the same board, get themselves out of the mess they got themselves into, in three months.
I'm not defending the actions of Swiss Tony or the other idiots on the Rovers board. I DO however realise that if SRFC was to go bust, it would represent a massive loss to the league as a whole- their fans, their tradition, their reputation are all valuable assets to a league that has little enough to attract as it is. Rovers DO need to get their house in order, pronto, but gloating at the possibility of their demise is plain stupid and short-sighted.How is pointing out that the don't have a snowballs chance in hell of paying off the 2.5million or restructering in the next three months , bitter, nasty digs. What un-truths about Rovers have i posted? They're comments on how i see things going. How can the same board, get themselves out of the mess they got themselves into, in three months.
To return to the actual topic- I'm surprised no one has mentioned one of the revelations in the Irish Times a couple of days ago. This was that 900k was taken from the development funds (I think the company is Sloan Park or some such) for Rovers and used in day to day running of the club. The piece went on to mention that this was in direct contravention of Department of Sport and Tourism guidelines for the use of grant monies.
If this is taken at face value then there's little point in Rovers fans gurning about the government or FAI not helping out as when they did get grant money they spent it on players. That's not just another club getting itself in financial trouble, that's akin to fraud on a fairly large scale. While Rovers fans may deserve plenty of sympathy at the same time the club pretty much deserves whatever happens to it, and probably a lot more besides.
hard to disagree with that at all. The board running rovers are an absolute disgrace- I'm sure Rovers fans would be the first to say that
This is old news, I think. They and Pat's (?) did it. This is the reason why grants for ground development hasn't been forthcoming in recent seasons. So not only are Rovers' board (and Pat's') holding their own club back, they're holding the rest of the league back too...
Heres a question for Ringo - Would we be better off with a league of Rovers (debts & all) or a league of Dublin Citys?
Rovers debts 'n all have more of a futre than Dublin City - i cannot think of reason for your club. Sure you'll get promotion some seasons but will just recycle players from the relegated dublin or surrounding area. Has Dublin City improved in the last 3 years? was there a point to promotion? Have crowds, structures, facilities improved?
From what i hear the structure of the Rovers debt (2.5m sound a lot) is such that chances of salvation of fairly good with e new board. Its the Rovers 300 odd members of their '400' club that will save their club - have DC ever had 300 home fans at a game?
If the 300 odd actually do pull them out of the fire, then it will be the single best act by any grouping of fans on the island yet, and all credit should be given to them. Rovers fans lead the way with the tifo style displays and created atmosphere at their games but this would top it to be fair .... fair play to all involved.
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
Why do you hate Dublin City so much?
All clubs start somewhere, we can't be hundreds of years old and have thousands of fans from day one.
How many fans did your club have after three years?
What is your criteria for a club to be allowed to exist?
Is it that you must have a minimum amount of fans and be a minimum years worth of history and tradition?
If we stay in existence for another twenty/thirty/forty years would you accept us then?
Derek - Dublin City AREN'T 3 years old. Your interest in them may date back to then - but in actual fact the club goes back a lot further. You're just Home Farm with a new name, and they've been in the league for decades - much longer than Cork City, Derry City, Bray Wanderers, Longford Town, Cobh Ramblers, Monaghan United, Kildare County, Kilkenny City, and the ill-fated NewcastleWest and St Francis have been. You've therefore been in existence as a league club for longer than at least 40% of the rest of the league. How does that make you a new club....?
Kildare County - now they're a new club. Applied to join the league, got accepted, and are slowly evolving into a team that can represent their town and County.
Dublin City - just took an existing club with very few fans, changed it's name and assumed it's league position. No new application to join, no new set-up. Same club, same players, same lack of fans. Just a new name and grander aspirations.
The fact that your club has gone through more name changes than The Jackal in the last 20 years says a lot about your role and position in Irish football.....
Last edited by dcfcsteve; 15/04/2005 at 12:07 AM.
How about this for a solution then.
1. Rovers go bang.
2. Leaguge spot available.
3. Dublin City take new licence give old one back to homefarm.
4. We are new club.
5. Everybody stops calling us Homefarm.
6. Everybody loves us cause we are a new club.
7. Everyone stops moaning about Dublin City being a joke.
How about that dcfcSteve.
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