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    Andrew Moran M Blackburn (loan from Brighton) b.2003

    Also on bench today. Now, this is a player I can get behind. Looks very promising. Needs to move on from PL2 level in January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_c12000 View Post
    Also on bench today. Now, this is a player I can get behind. Looks very promising. Needs to move on from PL2 level in January.

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    Absolutely. Looks like the king of crafty intelligent midfielder we’ve been praying for. If he starts getting minutes, he’s potentially another upgrade on our midfield options. Whether Kenny is willing to start promoting the next generation to build a better team for the future is another matter.

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    He's the twelfth Irish player to appear in the Premier League this season
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    He's the twelfth Irish player to appear in the Premier League this season
    That's actually better than it seemed it would be at the start of the season, when the only players I was confident of getting time would have been Bazunu, Travers, Doherty, Coleman, Collins and Duffy

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    I didn't think there would be as many as last season, but if Adaramola, Furlong, and maybe Greenwood can all make one appearance by the end of the season, then the total number of players will have been matched.
    Actual appearances will be down though.

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    Probably worth remembering though that last year was a record low, so we're still looking at a new low here even if it's not as bad as had been feared.

    The upside is that 9 of the 12 were born 1998 or later. The issue remains that we have nobody of a Premier League standard born between 1993 and 1997 inclusive. Five whole lost years there of players who would be 25 to 29 right now - the peak years for.most footballers. That's a hole we can't fill (other than Cullen hopefully establishing himself at that level from next season, or Ogbene reaching that level in time) so we will just have to wait as the next group emerges and hopefully never have as barren a 5 year crop as the 93s to 97s ever again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Probably worth remembering though that last year was a record low, so we're still looking at a new low here even if it's not as bad as had been feared.
    Yep - plus a lot of the players are hardly established players and may well not yet make the grade (which ties in with tets noting that the total appearances is likely to be down)

    Still, I guess have to try take the positives out of it - at least there are young players getting a few games...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    I didn't think there would be as many as last season, but if Adaramola, Furlong, and maybe Greenwood can all make one appearance by the end of the season, then the total number of players will have been matched.
    Actual appearances will be down though.
    Who is Greenwood?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Who is Greenwood?
    Ben Greenwood, left back with Bournemouth, played for the senior team a league cup game against Norwich a few months ago

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ben-...spieler/646333
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    Signs a new four year contract today. Bit surprised as he only signed a new three year contract at the start of the season. Shows how highly Brighton must rate him, and hopefully we get to see more of him next season whether at Brighton or on loan.


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    With Brighton missing strikers at the moment, I thought he might have been involved against United

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    With Brighton missing strikers at the moment, I thought he might have been involved against United
    He travelled with the squad, I seen pics of him on the pitch before the game so I'd say hes not too far away.

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    Bit of a similar situation here to conor ronan at wolves where they kept giving him longish contracts but never any real opportunity. Hopefully that's not the case here. They have similar players in the first team squad same age as him or younger who are ahead of him at present and a polish player same age out on loan who they paid 10 millon for so even without them buying in this summer it is a very tough task he faces to break in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Bit of a similar situation here to conor ronan at wolves where they kept giving him longish contracts but never any real opportunity. Hopefully that's not the case here. They have similar players in the first team squad same age as him or younger who are ahead of him at present and a polish player same age out on loan who they paid 10 millon for so even without them buying in this summer it is a very tough task he faces to break in there
    He's 19 years old. Way too early to suggest this is a Connor Ronan situation.
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    Because Brighton have such a record of mismanaging young Irish talent in recent years. Molumby, Ferguson, Connolly and Furlong have been afforded loans to good levels and/or first team football at Brighton. And when it appeared as though Molumby wasn't in the medium term plans there he was allowed move to WBA. Connolly probably would have been allowed move away permanently too this year if anyone was willing to take him on. Hull are saying they are open to a permanent signing now.

    He faces a tough task of breaking in there but I don't see much evidence for them having lads ahead of him. Who is the "young Polish lad"? Kozlowski? If he's an attacking midfielder them 2 goals in 25 games for Vitesse will hardly worry Moran. Enciso and Buonanotte are players of a similar profile there but if MacAllister leaves in the summer Enciso might pick up the mantle as he did at the weekend before MacAllister moved forward and Enciso went off.

    I don't understand this pessimism. A good news story as far as I can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Bit of a similar situation here to conor ronan at wolves where they kept giving him longish contracts but never any real opportunity. Hopefully that's not the case here. They have similar players in the first team squad same age as him or younger who are ahead of him at present and a polish player same age out on loan who they paid 10 millon for so even without them buying in this summer it is a very tough task he faces to break in there
    cant even compare these 2 lads ability wise yet. lets relax a small bit and stop thinking every club in england is trying to spite irish players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post

    He faces a tough task of breaking in there but I don't see much evidence for them having lads ahead of him. Who is the "young Polish lad"? Kozlowski? If he's an attacking midfielder them 2 goals in 25 games for Vitesse will hardly worry Moran. .
    Kacper Kozlowski. Youngest ever player at a Euros. He's more of a playmaker than a goalscorer, as his 4 in 40 games for Pogon Szcecin showed. He's quality and still 19. I think he got injured before going to Holland. He had an unproductive time at Union St. Gilloise. He's dropped out of the Polish first team squad so will be interesting to see if he pushes on (or hopefully ends up back at Pogon....)

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    Going on loan to Blackburn

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    Will be fighting it out with Szmodics for a starting spot but can also cover out wide. Likely pushes Gensilen down the pecking order. Think Blackburn see him as a winger rather than a CAM, though he could cover that role if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    Will be fighting it out with Szmodics for a starting spot but can also cover out wide. Likely pushes Gensilen down the pecking order. Think Blackburn see him as a winger rather than a CAM, though he could cover that role if needed.
    Brighton wouldn't be sending him to Blackburn unless they had some guarantees about playing time. Moran is one to watch - Brighton gave him a new contract until 2027 not too long ago - they wouldn't have done that unless they expected him to develop and to do that he needs competitive games. He is at Blackburn to play football, not sit on the bench behind anyone.

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