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    Possible Celtic/Shamrock Rovers deal.

    as per story in photos;


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    Is this a Waterford Whispers report? What about the fan owned model, Ray Wilson named as the 'the major shareholder', members have will be able to block this right? If wilson sells his 50% now then what about the buy back option on Roadstone? We've had Home Farm Everton, will there be a Shamrock Rovers Celtic? Celtic getting first dibs on Rovers youths and them sending players on loan to Tallaght for first team experience....this UK type link up has has never been tried before in Loi like!

    Seriously TT this is a p!ss take yeah!? No link
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post

    Seriously TT this is a p!ss take yeah!? No link
    https://twitter.com/irishdailymail/s...61325327634432

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    Are they not the same club already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado View Post
    Can you blame me for thinkinG its wind up with Rovers fans so adamant that Wilson will happily hand over his 50%, if he gets offered more than the repayment of the loan there's a bit of a quandry.

    One thing is that Tallaght could be packed for every SR Celtic FC home game as they could stick Celtic IX playing and they Celtic heads would be out in their droves.....

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    I would'nt put a lot of faith in it.
    For a start Celtic can't buy Rovers unless either they or Rovers decide not to compete in UEFA competitions.
    The links between the clubs are strong hence the friendlies etc.
    regarding the members model , its been repeated ad nauseam here before that Ray Wilsons shares are held only against his interest free loan and can't be sold.
    Any share sale would have to be approved by members to anyone Celtic, Peak7, JP McManus etc

    I do like the idea of getting a few loan players in if that part was true

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    I would'nt put a lot of faith in it.
    For a start Celtic can't buy Rovers unless either they or Rovers decide not to compete in UEFA competitions.
    Don't think that's an issue... Red Bull Salzburg and Leipzig made the EL semis in the same season in the last couple of years

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    Quote Originally Posted by seand View Post
    Don't think that's an issue... Red Bull Salzburg and Leipzig made the EL semis in the same season in the last couple of years
    They're both owned by the same Company, not one club owning the other, so slightly different there.

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    From Article 5 of the Champions League regulations:
    Article 5 Integrity of the competition
    5.01
    To ensure the integrity of the UEFA club competitions, the following criteria apply:
    a. No club participating in a UEFA club competition (i.e. UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League) may, either directly or indirectly:
    i. hold or deal in the securities or shares of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition;
    ii. be a member of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition;
    iii. be involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management, administration and/or sporting performance of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition; or
    iv. have any power whatsoever in the management, administration and/or sporting performance of any other club participating in a UEFA club competition.
    In short words: No club participating in Europe may have a stake in another, even if it's not a controlling stake.
    Last edited by sidewayspasser; 04/01/2019 at 12:01 PM. Reason: formatting

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    The argument as I recall was that Red Bull were just sponsors, which was nonsense but convenient for UEFA. I’m sure Celtic could just enter into some sort of partnership without officially owning a stake in the club.
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    As sbgawa already stated, no shares can be sold by Ray Wilson as they are only held against a loan which has a 10 year life span.

    An Academy link-up would seem the most likely possible story here, no Celtic takeover as has been muted.

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    Replace Celtic with West Ham and we had the exact same rumour a few years ago and there was nothing to it.
    What has probably happened is because of the numerous links between the clubs Celtic have approached Rovers about a potential official affiliation but that doesn't sound as good for headlines so it was bumped up to them making a bid for the club itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop View Post
    Replace Celtic with West Ham and we had the exact same rumour a few years ago and there was nothing to it.
    What has probably happened is because of the numerous links between the clubs Celtic have approached Rovers about a potential official affiliation but that doesn't sound as good for headlines so it was bumped up to them making a bid for the club itself.
    A preseason friendly and copying their strip now constitutes 'numerous links' who knew ?
    These type of arrangement rarely do well, Home farm / Everton anyone ? I recall Man Utd had some similar arrangement with Shel's based at PSSRC all weather pitch in Santry. Presumably a tax write off for Celtic and a chance to scout young Irish players and shams get to pretend they have 'numerous links'
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    A preseason friendly and copying their strip now constitutes 'numerous links' :
    Don't forget Damien Duff is another link along with thousands of fans who share allegiance.

    Philip Quinn stretching his imagination in the first place, me thinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    A preseason friendly and copying their strip now constitutes 'numerous links' who knew ?
    Point of order marinobohs, Rovers nicked their green n white hoops from Belfast Celtic, not Glasgow Celtic!

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    Are Rogers and Bradley interchangeable? I think they both are spoofers of the highest degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    A preseason friendly and copying their strip now constitutes 'numerous links' who knew ?
    These type of arrangement rarely do well, Home farm / Everton anyone ? I recall Man Utd had some similar arrangement with Shel's based at PSSRC all weather pitch in Santry. Presumably a tax write off for Celtic and a chance to scout young Irish players and shams get to pretend they have 'numerous links'
    Same kit sponsor, numerous friendlies, both managers get on well, Duff, then there's all the obvious ones. These rarely work out well do they? With insights like that surely you should be telling all the biggest clubs in the world that considering they're all throwing away their money then considering they all have these sorts of deals, clueless.

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    ouch ouch ouch
    This off season better end soon and give us something to talk about

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    Quote Originally Posted by seand View Post
    Point of order marinobohs, Rovers nicked their green n white hoops from Belfast Celtic, not Glasgow Celtic!
    So did Glasgow Celtic, to be fair. We'd all be wearing papal yellow and white were it not for Belfast Celtic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    A preseason friendly and copying their strip now constitutes 'numerous links' who knew ?
    These type of arrangement rarely do well, Home farm / Everton anyone ? I recall Man Utd had some similar arrangement with Shel's based at PSSRC all weather pitch in Santry. Presumably a tax write off for Celtic and a chance to scout young Irish players and shams get to pretend they have 'numerous links'
    bought a book other day released 20 yrs ago on history of home farm! have a proper understanding of the arrangement when Everton had the arrangement with Home Farm they changed their jerseys and set up separate company for the loi only the rest of the club went back to LSL and junior football and was known as Home Farm.

    didnt know until reading the book fully that when Everton withdrew their interest in Home Farm that club was renamed Home Farm Fingal and stayed in the league of ireland and was a breakaway from the original Home Farm who stayed in the LSL.

    also didnt know that Home Farm Fingal became Dublin City until 2006.

    I doubt that Shamrock Rovers will go this way cos of Ray Wilson shareholding is set up!
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