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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom View Post
    I disagree. Our turnover into the senior squad is going to get greater and greater.
    For starters from this group we've already Kelleher, Travers, OShea, Molumby, Connolly, Idah and someone else?
    Parrott is obviously there or thereabouts, and Lee O'Connor has already made his debut.

    Based on what I've seen in this campaign, not just today, Conor Coventry would be an asset to the senior squad already. Collins is a beast, is very young, but has some lapses in him - for an almost first choice Chsampinship pro don't forget - that he needs to eradicate, and I'd be sure he's going to be a mainstay very quickly. I really like Connor Ronan. I think he's a very very clever player, and with better attacking players around him, and a good centre forward that pulls attnetion, he could be very useful, and I think he'll progress into the senior squad too.
    Then there's Afolabi...he's been injured a lot, but I've seen him a handful of times, and much prefer him to Obafemi, who I think is so overrated it's comical.

    Masterson, Scales, Elbouzedhi, Leahy, Mandriou. They're all really nice foorballers to watch, but they won't threathen the top two tiers in England, and in that scenario, I would hope that they could be a force in the LoI. I know that Masterson is at QPR and Elbouzedhi at Lincoln, but masterson for me has too many flaws. maybe he'll iron them out, but I'd be doubtful. However, seeing those players playing in a quality league of Ireland side - a Bohs, a Rovers or a Dundalk, would make a huge difference to the standard here, and also when those sides play in Europe.

    Last one for me is Jack Taylor. Today wasn't the day for his type of game, but i've said it on the other thread, I think he's going to explode in the next 18 minths. He's tough, he's aggressive, and he carries the ball well, and isnt afraid to have a crack at goal. I fully expect him to be in the senior squad by the start of the 24 qualifying series.

    That's before you even discuss next years 21s. It's one of the reasons why on other threads when we are posed the question "what's more important?", the most important thing, for me, is getting all age groups constantly into final tournaments. That drives these players when they get to the senior squad, where lets face it, qualification has been far from common place. We're constantly working on a top-down appraoch. We need to invert that.

    Ask yourselves why this group of players was so anticipated and exciting? because of what they have achieved as a group all the way through. The first structured group of developed players from across the country, and it showed. That needs to be a priority.
    I though Masterson was the better centre half today I really haven't seen many flaws when he plays for Ireland and he is certainly a centre half you want football wise if the plan is for the keeper to keep kicking goal kicks 5 yards to centre halves on the edge of the 6 yard box.

    I think Ronan gets given alot of constant praise but has he really created enough in that 10 role or tested himself at a level equivalent to the championship yet ? Dan crowley is 6 months older than Ronan and to me is a player at this stage more suited to been in our seniors and impacting given his time in the top division in Holland and the championship

    On the other hand obafemi has made impacts at premier league level and seems to get no love. He will struggle to play as a lone striker at the moment but paired with someone like parrott in a 2 he has definite qualities

    It's been a good campaign certainly more depth than in previous under 21 squads but obviously it's very difficult for us to be down 7 or 8 first choices at this level and still reach the same levels.

    The next 21 campaign will be tricky because covid has disrupted 19s international football so much so lots of lads wont have had the same international exposure as previously.

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    Kingdom, I agree that there will be more players in next years 21s etc, I was just saying not too many more will breakthrough from tonight's team. Bazunu for example didn't play today so I didn't include him.

    Coventry and Ronan both nice players I'd agree, but also think both have looked less good since Molumby has been taken out of the side.

    Lee O'Connor has a long way to go before he'll be back in contention for another senior cap I think. And we both agree on Obafemi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Iceland were missing 2 top players called up to the seniors, that's just normal stuff when the senior team is under pressure.
    of course. i wasnt giving an excuse..... more of a wish as to how this crop of u21s would have developed a bit more as a group

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    Just gone 2-1. Ireland were 2-0 up with goals from Kayode and Lennon.

    Luxembourg with a worldie to pull one back. 5 minutes to go.

    HolaVPN chrome extension works to watch it on RTL.

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    FT 2-1.

    Fairly decent, disciplined performance from a largely second string side. Nothing they could do about the Luxembourg goal, but overal a solid performance. Obafemi came on for the last 15 and done well too. Kayode is a big lad and could be a decent late bloomer.

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    With the conclusion of the under 21 qualifiers, the following players are no longer eligible for the u21 side
    Code:
    Louis Dunne
    Connor Ronan
    Daniel McKenna
    Gerry McDonagh
    Canice Carroll
    Josh Barrett
    Conor Masterson
    Leo Donnellan
    Trevor Clarke
    Michael O'Connor
    James Doona
    Sean Boyd
    Ciaran Kelly
    Conor McCarthy
    Darragh Leahy
    Jack Taylor
    Caoimhin Kelleher
    Callum Cockerill-Mollett
    Thomas Cadman
    Thomas O'Connor
    Dara O'Shea
    Zachary Elbouzedi
    Jayson Molumby
    Robert McCourt
    Conor Levingston
    Finn O'Mara
    Aaron O'Driscoll
    Luke Wade Slater
    Evan Pierce
    Jean Yves Poame
    Jonathan Lunney
    Daniel Mandroiu
    Corey O'Keeffe
    Liam Scales
    Warren O'Hora
    Aidan Keena
    Jamie Gray
    Rian O'Sullivan
    Alec Byrne
    Adrian Delap
    Cathal Farren
    Sam Todd
    Kyle Finn
    Jack James
    Dan McNamara
    Cody Prior
    Jake Doyle-Hayes
    Shola Ayoola
    Tyreke Wilson
    Edward McGinty
    John Mahon
    Anthony Scully
    Conor Davis
    Aaron Drinan
    Jack Keaney
    Shane Blaney
    Callum Nicell
    Barry Cotter
    Ryan Nolan
    Sean Callan
    Ronan Hale
    Jamie Lennon
    Robert Kirk
    David Craddock
    James Finnerty
    Mark Travers
    Ryan Graydon
    Ronan Wilson
    Ronan Hurley
    Stephen Mallon
    Simon Power
    Corrie Ndaba
    Conor Kearns
    Neil Farrugia
    Jozsef Keaveny
    Paul Martin
    Rob Slevin
    Darragh Power
    Reece Murphy
    William Fitzgerald
    Dean Beresford
    Oisin Griffin
    Alex Phelan
    Noel Heffernan
    Jack Clarke
    Darragh O'Connor
    Kian Flanagan
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on twitter and facebook

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    With the conclusion of the under 21 qualifiers, the following players are no longer eligible for the u21 side
    Code:
    Louis Dunne
    Connor Ronan
    Daniel McKenna
    Gerry McDonagh
    Canice Carroll
    Josh Barrett
    Conor Masterson
    Leo Donnellan
    Trevor Clarke
    Michael O'Connor
    James Doona
    Sean Boyd
    Ciaran Kelly
    Conor McCarthy
    Darragh Leahy
    Jack Taylor
    Caoimhin Kelleher
    Callum Cockerill-Mollett
    Thomas Cadman
    Thomas O'Connor
    Dara O'Shea
    Zachary Elbouzedi
    Jayson Molumby
    Robert McCourt
    Conor Levingston
    Finn O'Mara
    Aaron O'Driscoll
    Luke Wade Slater
    Evan Pierce
    Jean Yves Poame
    Jonathan Lunney
    Daniel Mandroiu
    Corey O'Keeffe
    Liam Scales
    Warren O'Hora
    Aidan Keena
    Jamie Gray
    Rian O'Sullivan
    Alec Byrne
    Adrian Delap
    Cathal Farren
    Sam Todd
    Kyle Finn
    Jack James
    Dan McNamara
    Cody Prior
    Jake Doyle-Hayes
    Shola Ayoola
    Tyreke Wilson
    Edward McGinty
    John Mahon
    Anthony Scully
    Conor Davis
    Aaron Drinan
    Jack Keaney
    Shane Blaney
    Callum Nicell
    Barry Cotter
    Ryan Nolan
    Sean Callan
    Ronan Hale
    Jamie Lennon
    Robert Kirk
    David Craddock
    James Finnerty
    Mark Travers
    Ryan Graydon
    Ronan Wilson
    Ronan Hurley
    Stephen Mallon
    Simon Power
    Corrie Ndaba
    Conor Kearns
    Neil Farrugia
    Jozsef Keaveny
    Paul Martin
    Rob Slevin
    Darragh Power
    Reece Murphy
    William Fitzgerald
    Dean Beresford
    Oisin Griffin
    Alex Phelan
    Noel Heffernan
    Jack Clarke
    Darragh O'Connor
    Kian Flanagan
    Along with Luke McNally, Ross Treacy and Danny Grant (by a week or so)

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    There's still a very strong core of U21 players left over from this batch and an equally exciting amount stepping up from the U19s. Should have a good squad for the next round of qualifying even accounting for Parrott, Idah and Knight moving up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elatedscum View Post
    Along with Luke McNally, Ross Treacy and Danny Grant (by a week or so)
    I'm not sure about Grant, some sites give his date of birth as October 1999, some have it as October 2000
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on twitter and facebook

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    With the conclusion of the under 21 qualifiers, the following players are no longer eligible for the u21 side
    Code:
    Louis Dunne
    Connor Ronan
    Daniel McKenna
    Gerry McDonagh
    Canice Carroll
    Josh Barrett
    Conor Masterson
    Leo Donnellan
    Trevor Clarke
    Michael O'Connor
    James Doona
    Sean Boyd
    Ciaran Kelly
    Conor McCarthy
    Darragh Leahy
    Jack Taylor
    Caoimhin Kelleher
    Callum Cockerill-Mollett
    Thomas Cadman
    Thomas O'Connor
    Dara O'Shea
    Zachary Elbouzedi
    Jayson Molumby
    Robert McCourt
    Conor Levingston
    Finn O'Mara
    Aaron O'Driscoll
    Luke Wade Slater
    Evan Pierce
    Jean Yves Poame
    Jonathan Lunney
    Daniel Mandroiu
    Corey O'Keeffe
    Liam Scales
    Warren O'Hora
    Aidan Keena
    Jamie Gray
    Rian O'Sullivan
    Alec Byrne
    Adrian Delap
    Cathal Farren
    Sam Todd
    Kyle Finn
    Jack James
    Dan McNamara
    Cody Prior
    Jake Doyle-Hayes
    Shola Ayoola
    Tyreke Wilson
    Edward McGinty
    John Mahon
    Anthony Scully
    Conor Davis
    Aaron Drinan
    Jack Keaney
    Shane Blaney
    Callum Nicell
    Barry Cotter
    Ryan Nolan
    Sean Callan
    Ronan Hale
    Jamie Lennon
    Robert Kirk
    David Craddock
    James Finnerty
    Mark Travers
    Ryan Graydon
    Ronan Wilson
    Ronan Hurley
    Stephen Mallon
    Simon Power
    Corrie Ndaba
    Conor Kearns
    Neil Farrugia
    Jozsef Keaveny
    Paul Martin
    Rob Slevin
    Darragh Power
    Reece Murphy
    William Fitzgerald
    Dean Beresford
    Oisin Griffin
    Alex Phelan
    Noel Heffernan
    Jack Clarke
    Darragh O'Connor
    Kian Flanagan
    Karl O'Sullivan with two under-21 appearances is a 99 born player too. Think that makes him ineligible too?

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    I think so. the cutoff date for the 2021 U21 Championship is 1st January 1998, so I'm guessing the cutoff date for the 2023 U21 Championship is 1st January 2000, so O'Sullivan would be ineligible.
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on twitter and facebook

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    I'm not sure about Grant, some sites give his date of birth as October 1999, some have it as October 2000
    Not Roger Milla all over again.

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    By the time Roger played for Cameroon at USA 94, the arthritis was kicking in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    By the time Roger played for Cameroon at USA 94, the arthritis was kicking in.
    He wen’t that Milla too far !

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    I'm not sure about Grant, some sites give his date of birth as October 1999, some have it as October 2000
    It's 1999, it's in his Twitter name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    It's 1999, it's in his Twitter name.
    Someone should probably inform Bohs..

    https://bohemianfc.com/?p=13483

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Someone should probably inform Bohs..

    https://bohemianfc.com/?p=13483
    Meanwhile, transfermarkt has an entirely different date: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dani...spieler/577557

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Someone should probably inform Bohs..

    https://bohemianfc.com/?p=13483
    Somebody should inform the bozos of a lot of things

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