we are top drawers. That's why I doubt we'll winOriginally Posted by mark12345
I would like to add that I have never posted a nerdy post about the Euro 2020 play offs but possibly due to someone not understanding the import of the content of my posts due to some deficiency of sorts, have thereby castigated them as nerdy.
I will accept that there are nerdy posts but Geysir's are excluded
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Am I the only one who does not understand any of this qualification stuff?
Yes, you are
you know, nevermind Georgia drawing with Denmark, they could have nicked it at the end!
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist thinks it will change; the realist adjusts the sails.
A quick summary:
- 24 teams qualify for Euro 2020
- Ten groups, 2 qualify directly from each group = 20 teams
- Remaining 4 places are determined by a series of playoffs
- The participants in the playoffs are determined by the 2018/19 Nations League matches which have all taken place
- The 4 best teams from NL League D (who haven’t qualified via the traditional qualification groups) will be the League D play off teams. A 1 leg semi-final followed by a 1 leg final, in March 2020
- Same too for NL Leagues C, B and A
- But – in all likelihood all the League A teams will qualify outright, so the League A play off path gets made up of the best B (or maybe even C) teams that don’t qualify outright
- You’d also expect most B teams to qualify outright
- So, despite Ireland doing rubbish in the Nations League, as long as no more than 6 Nations League A or B teams fail to qualify from the groups, we get a playoff, probably in the vacant League A playoff path (because they’ve already qualified their playoff places go to the remaining B teams) – and @insidetherock was pointing out which other teams that would be against. That’s what the above posts were about.
A few of us were debating some of the finer nuances of the exact mechanism but this was a mix of highly intelligent (Geysir) and nerdy (mainly me, Sammy, insidetherock and davidatrb) posts.
And in the end, the Germans win...
Heard that Xhaka will take a short break from football when his wife gives birth. Hopefully, it's around the international break next month.
I think the new Thread there set up is closed. Can't seem to post in there. (And typo in the thread name Nationa)
As an Arsenal fan.. that's fantastic news
If we go the playoff route ie finish 3rd or worse then likely Path A or Path B playoff - probably a winnable semi final vs eg N.Ireland or Bulgaria if I read it right. Just naming a couple of the possibilities to give an idea of standard but too far to go yet to know any certainties. Then playoff final vs Iceland (if we end up in Path A) or Bosnia (if we end up in Path B). I think this bit is certain enough -looking like Iceland wont Q and Bosnia really struggling. And we go into Pot 4 for the Actual Finals Draw. Good record vs Bosnia in playoffs. The friendly tomorrow could be a nice warm up versus Bulgaria calibre opponent.
If we get 2nd and go straight in. The seeding means that the 2nd placed automatic qualifiers can be any Pot 2-4 depending on pts/gd (two into Pot 2, six into Pot 3, two into Pot 4). So we need to go some for our gd vs Gibraltar when we get a chance.
These are the "likely" 2nd places and their GD/Pts.
Code:P GD PTS 17 Russia Auto (Pot 2) 5 5 12 15 Denmark Auto (Pot 2) 5 10 9 2 Netherlands Auto (Pot 3) 4 9 9 22 Turkey Auto (Pot 3) 4 7 9 28 Finland Auto (Pot 3) 5 2 9 16 Sweden Auto (Pot 3) 5 1 8 18 Austria Auto (Pot 3) 5 1 7 19 Wales Auto (Pot 3) 4 0 6 20 Czech Auto (Pot 4) 4 -2 6 1 Portugal Auto (Pot 4) 3 2 5
Our gd is +4 and pts 11, so points wise not doing bad, might sneak into Pot 2 but think Russia and Netherlands are in with a better chance. We can hope England do damage to Kosovo's goal difference tomorrow (its a coin toss between Czech and Kosovo for 2nd), and Portugal, Czech, Turkey also struggle to score - all in action tomorrow.
I know ppl dont like to pre-empt these things and of course focus is on qualifying whatever way. But we can make life easier on ourselves imo by watching some of this.
Last edited by davidatrb; 09/09/2019 at 9:32 PM.
We only need to beat Gibraltar, goal diff wont matter a jot.
When it comes to seeding the 1st and 2nd placed qualified teams, the results gained against the 6th team are discarded.
I suspect the 2nd team in our group will end up with a relative low points total.
Last edited by geysir; 10/09/2019 at 12:56 PM.
But Gibraltar will be 5th placed team..
I'm not following this - we've already played Gibraltar twice, we won't be playing them again?
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Yep you’re right! Bit late thinking about it now. Can’t see us running up a decent GD vs what’s left. Might come into it, but hey doesn’t matter now. Might not matter.
Hard to credit that they are a 5th pot team along with Kosova and Armenia. So the 2nd place team in our group will have an easy 6 points earned and should avoid the 4th seed pitfall.
Both games have been erased from the memory. I think it's a known post-trauma pschological phenomenon.
I'm not sure that is the case. It was originally reported that way in the media, but I'm pretty certain that I later read (in an article I'm admittedly now having difficulty finding again) that Xhaka since clarified that the Swiss FA had merely offered him time off. Whether he'll take them up on the offer or not remains to be seen.
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