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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    All the above begs the question does Dublin have too many teams? Taking into account population and the lack of interest by in large that population has in the domestic game, for me there's too many teams swimming around in too small a pond!
    And yet the teams relegated from the Premier and in most serious financial difficulty are Bray and Limerick. I think most would prefer a less Dublincentric League but it must be done on merit. there is no appetite here for the American franchise model and where non Dublin clubs were 'dropped in' (thinking Kilkenny City or Monaghan as prime examples) they just didn't work.
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    About a third of the teams in the league are from the Dublin area, which reflects the population pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    this is what i dont get. tolka park is only up the rd from dalier so how would that effect their support? Im surprised that shels didnt approach home farm to go into their ground- that would have being the area i would have aimed for if i was a shels fan instead of potentially fingal! tbh home farm would have being better for shels as at least they would have their own ground as such and closer to tolka than dalymount.
    Home Farm have already lost one stadium to Shelbourne though. I'm not sure they'd be overly keen to repeat that mistake ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    About a third of the teams in the league are from the Dublin area, which reflects the population pretty well.
    Plus football is by and large an urban sport.

    Of the Top 10 population centres in the ROI - Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway, Waterford, Drogheda, Swords, Dundalk, Bray, Navan - only 2 don't themselves have an LOI club. And of them - Swords was essentially covered by Sporting Fingal, and Navan is arguably covered by Drogheda United.

    The 11th biggest population centre - Kilkenny city - tried but failed to sustain an LOI club, as did the 15th biggest (Newbridge).

    So in a country who's urban centres aren't generally big, it's hard to see where there realistically are obvious candidates for an LOI team to prosper which either don't already have one, or haven't previously tried and failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    Plus football is by and large an urban sport.

    Of the Top 10 population centres in the ROI - Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway, Waterford, Drogheda, Swords, Dundalk, Bray, Navan - only 2 don't themselves have an LOI club. And of them - Swords was essentially covered by Sporting Fingal, and Navan is arguably covered by Drogheda United.

    The 11th biggest population centre - Kilkenny city - tried but failed to sustain an LOI club, as did the 15th biggest (Newbridge).

    So in a country who's urban centres aren't generally big, it's hard to see where there realistically are obvious candidates for an LOI team to prosper which either don't already have one, or haven't previously tried and failed.
    I had forgotten Kildare County if ever there was an argument to start a football club - ground available (Newbridge Town) fast growing population area and a very urban type population. Sure, how could it NOT work ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    I had forgotten Kildare County if ever there was an argument to start a football club - ground available (Newbridge Town) fast growing population area and a very urban type population. Sure, how could it NOT work ?
    As we know, the percentage of Irish people who are open to supporting LOI football is pretty low.

    Would that then be exacerbated in commuter areas like Kildare, where many of those who are open to it come from areas or families which would already have an affiliation to an existing club in Dublin or elsewhere ? So they're as likely to support Bohs or Rovers as Kildare County - leaving an even smaller pool for the latter to appeal to ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    Navan is arguably covered by Drogheda United.

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    That's an argument doomed to fail

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    Home Farm have already lost one stadium to Shelbourne though. I'm not sure they'd be overly keen to repeat that mistake ?
    forgot that home farm were in tolka before shels. explains that all right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    Plus football is by and large an urban sport.

    Of the Top 10 population centres in the ROI - Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway, Waterford, Drogheda, Swords, Dundalk, Bray, Navan - only 2 don't themselves have an LOI club. And of them - Swords was essentially covered by Sporting Fingal, and Navan is arguably covered by Drogheda United.

    The 11th biggest population centre - Kilkenny city - tried but failed to sustain an LOI club, as did the 15th biggest (Newbridge).

    So in a country who's urban centres aren't generally big, it's hard to see where there realistically are obvious candidates for an LOI team to prosper which either don't already have one, or haven't previously tried and failed.
    Kilkenny can't even sustain a GAA football team

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    Tim Clancy to Shels.
    He's(Clancy)is contracted to Drogs until eos 2019.

    honest interview with LMFM here from the Drogs chairman - https://www.lmfm.ie/on-air/shows/sun...clancy-future/

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    Vinny Perth was mentioned a target also at work this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Vinny Perth was mentioned a target also at work this week.
    With Vinny going full time on a new contract recently, it is a long shot.

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    Ian Morris touted as Owen Hearys successor .

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    Ian Morris touted as Owen Hearys successor .
    Apparently Clancy knocked them back (despite the 'huge' resources available - as per our shams 'insider' ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    Ian Morris touted as Owen Hearys successor .
    so is stephen rice according to the sun today!
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    Couldn't see Rice being a popular appointment amongst the Shels support don't think that one would be runner.

    Morris appears to have done good work off the pitch with Bohs underage ranks but taking a punt on a rookie manager along with expectations of winning the FD title next season wouldn't make much sense

    But then again basically offering Tim Clancy the job after Drogheda's embarrasing performance against 9 man Shels two weeks earlier didn't make any sense either so who know's who will end up in the job
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    Quote Originally Posted by total hoofball View Post
    Couldn't see Rice being a popular appointment amongst the Shels support don't think that one would be runner.

    Morris appears to have done good work off the pitch with Bohs underage ranks but taking a punt on a rookie manager along with expectations of winning the FD title next season wouldn't make much sense

    But then again basically offering Tim Clancy the job after Drogheda's embarrasing performance against 9 man Shels two weeks earlier didn't make any sense either so who know's who will end up in the job
    I know a man with a track record of getting teams up from the First Division. Used to managing in Dalymount too. Hed be very interested and he might have investors to come in with him.

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    Twotter is telling me Ian Morris has been given steerage at Shels.

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    Mick Cooke was in the Aviva (sporting a Dundalk top), he'd have been a fairly low risk or safe pair of hands for Shels needs this coming season. Is he doing anything at all currently or completely retired?

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