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[lopez]

Owlsfan - that's a truely woeful suggestion. What's the point of singing your own anthem in a language other than its meant to be in ?...

It was originally written in English by Peadar Kearney. Good enough for him, it's good enough for anyone.

Wonder what happens with the Belgian anthem?

[Eire06]

It was originally written in English by Peadar Kearney. Good enough for him, it's good enough for anyone.

Wonder what happens with the Belgian anthem?

The Soliders song was written in English as a regular song by Kearney, It was decided that the would use the first verse as the national anthem so it was changed into Irish for that reason.. So really the Anthem has always been in Irish and was never intended to be sang in English

[boysingreen]

Brought a smile to my face pronane. Song has a special place in my heart, as I'm sure it does many people. It tells to one extent or another many an Irishmen's story, not least my late father's, even my own. Few lines really strike a chord. We in fact went home in December cause the auld fella died. My siblings and I were born and raised a short distance from Fordham Road. My father used to talk about how that area once was "all Irish," hard to believe today.

I've actually had the intention to print out the song and hang it on my wall, with just "Not to forget, be a proud Irishman." bold and highlighted, exactly as you posted it. I never saw it anywhere in ink like that or anything, just had it in my mind, pretty ironic. Again, was great to see it posted as a kind of salute.

[Cowboy]

I'm no expert but is this 1st line correct " laochra" ?

d'Amhrán na bhFiann

Sinne laochra Fáil,

[Cowboy]

"fianna" is what you are looking for cowboy

Thats what I thought, but perhaps Fear Beag knows different ?

[Eire06]

Thats what I thought, but perhaps Fear Beag knows different ?

Think it was changed to Fianna was origionaly laochra

[Cowboy]

Think it was changed to Fianna was origionaly laochra

Can we blame Charlie Haughey for this stroke ?

[Eire06]

I think laochra means Heros but have to check it up.. It was changed because Fianna sounded better apparantly

[Saint Tom]

laochra=warriors/heroes

[Shae_B2D]

Here ye are boys and Gals..This is the bit we have to know (very little ) so the more people that read this the more people we will have blasting it out at Landsdowne in June. For God sake, never be ashamed to sing something that enhances one's Irishness something we all should be proud of.




d'Amhrán na bhFiann

Sinne laochra Fáil,
Atá faoi gheall ag Éireann,
Buíon dár slua,
Thar thoinn do ráinig chugainn
Faoi mhóid bheith saor,
Seantír ár sinsear feasta
Ní fhágfar faoin tíorán ná faoi tráill;
Anocht a théam sa bhearna bhaoil,
Le gean ar Ghaeil chun báis nó saoil,
Le gunna-scréach faoi lamhach na bpiléar
Seo libh canaig' Amhrán na bhFiann.

Any chance of a word by word translation for it? so we foreigners can study a few new words?

[Cowboy]

laochra=warriors/heroes

I like warrior more than soldier to be honest even though I was one

[Cowboy]

Any chance of a word by word translation for it? so we foreigners can study a few new words?

sure http://www.lyricmania.com/l25643

[donalfitz]

Can we blame Charlie Haughey for this stroke ?

I think laochra means Heros but have to check it up.. It was changed because Fianna sounded better apparantly

If charlie Haughey change it (former leader of fianna fáil political party), then it sound like a politicial scam for votes.

[FarBeag]

laochra=warriors/heroes..This was the original but it was changed to Fianna but i am not sure who changed it.

[Shae_B2D]

sure http://www.lyricmania.com/l25643

Bless you, thanks!

[FarBeag]

Shae_B2D....Take a look at Boysingreens post yesterday.This gives a good simple way of singing it in both languages plus also has an' Idiot guide' if you like attached.Sorry hope this does not sound cynical.

[skbio_toronto]

That reminds me of my last few visits to Lansdowne .Weather it was the South / North Terrace or West Stand. I could'nt help but notice that many of the people around me seemed uncomfortable / amused / confused or all of the above. Not a point made for a football meassage board , I digress. But to my my mind the lacklusture teaching of the Irish language and history as a subject leads to this ignorance of our national hertitage amongst the younger generations, IMO. A great may of Irish young people today are largely ignorant to national hero's such as Wolfe Tone, Daniel O' Connell, Michael Collins, Sean Lemass (depends on your perspective), a crying shame.

Sometimes, I can feel isolated in my Irish nationalistic tendencies in the company of certain 'Irish' people. One of the push factors that has me out here in Canada to be honest. But I'll tell ye one thing. It will never stop me from ag canadh ar ahmran naisiunta. Nil aon dabht faoi sin.

I brought my 7 year to his first international on Tuesday night. Its a couple of years since I managed to get tickets to an Ireland game and I too noticed people looking at me in a strange because I sung the national anthem with gusto. What's happened the patriotic Irish. Do they have to be gargled up to sing the national anthem. BTW my son also sung along as he's already been taught it in school as gaelge. It will probably be another couple of years before I get my hands on tickets again.

[lopez]

Can't say that I have ever been made to feel embarrassed to sing the Soldiers Song. Actually tends to shut certain people up with their pre-concieved ideas of my English accent. FFS, there's even a line about us in the national anthem. There does however seem to be a strong lack of education of Irish history amongst all people in the 26C education system (a principal favourite of mine being emigration). Disgrace!

BTW. Wasn't Sean Lemass one of the lads on the assault on the Cairo Gang? Got to be a contender of one of the coooooolest political assasinations in British history (The other one being our Israeli friends restructuring of the King David Hotel).

[boysingreen]

If I recall right Lemass was indeed, as was Ardal O'Hanlon's (Dougal from Fr. Ted) grandfather Mick.

[FarBeag]

lopez... Quote by Can't say that I have ever been made to feel embarrassed to sing the Soldiers Song. Actually tends to shut certain people up with their pre-concieved ideas of my English accent.

Fcuk the clowns with this attitude i really respect ye guys that grow up in England of Irish Parents that show your support towards Ireland, i work with some really good blokes of Irish Parentage and some not so good...My Query..I have an 8 year old and his aliences at the moment is swinging towards the tans,how do I divert this and train him in.