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    Foot.ie Talks To... Bob Breen. Your Questions Please.

    OK folks .... Its that time again, after the success of Foot.ie Talks To... Damien Richardson we have lined up another Q&A session....... We, the patrons of foot.ie are invited to compose questions on anything that ails us about the UEFA Licensing System. If you have a who, a what, a where or a when about anything to do with the system then have been invited to pose such a question and have it answered by Mr. Bob Breen

    Bob Breen has volunteered to shine some light where possible on some of the subjects of debate in the past, present and future. If you have a query that keeps you awake at night, then a problem shared could be a problem answered. So get busy with that keyboard, as we’ll have a week to compile our questions and send them off to Bob, who in turn will answer them and we’ll post up the answer in due course.

    All normal message board rules apply, no abuse will be tolerated and this thread will be policed and not foul play will be permitted.

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    Do you feel that clubs have made significant progress under the Licencing scheme ?

    How confident are you that Government aid will be forthcoming to help clubs get their infrastructure up to the required standards ?

    Were you disappointed by the number of clubs that did not meet this years licensing requirements by the initial submission date and why do you think this was the case ?

    Why were the infrastructural requirements for this years Premier License relaxed/weakened from those applied in the 2004 season ?

    Why does the FAI put clubs in a catch 22 situation ? (i.e. threaten to fine/withold grant money from clubs not complying with the regulations, when it's that very money they need to be able to comply)

    It was mooted that some clubs held others back from gaining licences 1st time around, for example - People would ask questions if clubs like Galway, Derry and Bray got licences when the bigger clubs like Shamrock Rovers, Shels and Pats were struggling with there applications. Can you shed some light on this please !!

    What level of contact did the FAI have with UEFA before implementing the licensing first day, by that i mean did representatives from UEFA come over and step through all the various elements of each section, how did it work ?

    Did the FAI have any input to the UEFA licensing system when it was being compiled first day ?

    How do you think Ireland is doing, progress wise, compared to similar leagues around Europe ?

    Do you think that now the UEFA Licensing system itself (a few years after its first appearance) includes everything that clubs need to operate successfully, or are there certain parts that you’d like to see worked on a bit more ?

    What financial assistance does the FAI and/or Sports Council, Government and any other authority provide to clubs to match the new demands of the licensing system and what criteria are used to decide who gets what ?

    When are St.Pat's eventually going to be made to install hand washing facilities in their toilets at inchicore? As far as I am aware it's a requirement.

    Is the rumour that Sligo failed initially this season because they filled in their application in red biro true? If yes, does it not reflect badly on the licencing process that a club making strides to improve can be knocked back due to petty bureacracy ?

    What are the main differences between the requirements for a League and UEFA licence ?

    Many clubs complimented you on the help you gave them during the appeals process, and on how closely you monitored the situation. Was the same level of help offered in the build up to the initial submissions, and assuming it was, did clubs refuse the help? I'm just confused why everybody failed initially and why everybody passed subsequently if the neccessary support was in place ?

    Many clubs were quickly successful on appeal. Do you think alerting these clubs to the required improvements and offering an extension would have been favourable to the public humiliation of the EL that resulted in the FAI's rush to compliment their own strict licencing process ?

    Where is the money that was promised last year when the clubs passed the first year of licencing ?

    According to press reports one club had player wages unpaid and another had a transfer fee outstanding at the time of the licensing proces. Are these grounds for failure ?

    Given the public appear to view the Licence scheme as a farce, how does you believe that credibility can be restored ?

    How can the licence system be taken seriously when financial requirements are ignored? For example longford had not paid tax in 7 years, Shamrock Rovers accounts were not independently audited, most grounds fail to meet many of the basic requirement such as toilet facilities, proviosion of food and drink, provision of solid surfaces to walk on (ie tarmac or concrete) ?

    What minimum standards did those grounds (Finn Park and United Park spring to mind) which didn't meet the respective infrastructural requirements but got a license based on concrete plans for development, have to meet?

    Would the FAI consider consult with a fans council (representative from each club idea) with regards to what issues we encounter as fans and take our suggestions for Licence requirements on board. This would also help as the representatives could then speak to their clubs fans and explain the latest requirements etc.
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    Do you feel that clubs have made significant progress under the Licencing scheme and how confident are you that Government aid will be forthcoming to help clubs get their infrastructure up to the required standards?
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    Were you disappointed by the number of clubs that did not meet this years licensing requirements by the initial submission date and why do you think this was the case?

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    Why were the infrastructural requirements for this years Premier License relaxed/weakened from those applied in the 2004 season?

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    Why does the FAI put clubs in a catch 22 situation?

    i.e. threaten to fine/withold grant money from clubs not complying with the regulations, when it's that very money they need to be able to comply!

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    It was mooted that some clubs held others back from gaining licences 1st time around, for example - People would ask questions if clubs like Galway, Derry and Bray got licences when the bigger clubs like Shamrock Rovers, Shels and Pats were struggling with there applications. Can you shed some light on this please...........

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    What level of contact did the FAI have with UEFA before implementing the licensing first day, by that i mean did representatives from UEFA come over and step through all the various elements of each section, how did it work ??

    Did the FAI have any input to the UEFA licensing system when it was being compiled first day ??

    How do you think Ireland is doing, progress wise, compared to similar leagues around Europe ??

    Do you think that now the UEFA Licensing system itself (a few years after its first appearance) includes everything that clubs need to operate successfully, or are there certain parts that you’d like to see worked on a bit more ??
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo69
    It was mooted that some clubs held others back from gaining licences 1st time around, for example - People would ask questions if clubs like Galway, Derry and Bray got licences when the bigger clubs like Shamrock Rovers, Shels and Pats were struggling with there applications. Can you shed some light on this please...........

    Im with ROO69 on this one. What have ye got against our clubs????

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    What financial assistance does the FAI and/or Sports Council, Government and any other authority provide to clubs to match the new demands of the licensing system?
    And what criteria are used to decide who gets what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo69
    It was mooted that some clubs held others back from gaining licences 1st time around, for example - People would ask questions if clubs like Galway, Derry and Bray got licences when the bigger clubs like Shamrock Rovers, Shels and Pats were struggling with there applications. Can you shed some light on this please.

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    Im with ROO69 on this one. What have ye got against our clubs????

    Lads .... can you expand on that a bit more. Is there anymore to this and is it just yourselves have said this or have officals from clubs said this ??
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Is the rumour that Sligo failed initially this season because they filled in their application in red biro true? If yes, does it not reflect badly on the licencing process that a club making strides to improve can be knocked back due to petty bureacracy?

    What are the main differences between the requirements for a League and UEFA licence?

    Many clubs complimented you on the help you gave them during the appeals process, and on how closely you monitored the situation. Was the same level of help offered in the build up to the initial submissions, and assuming it was, did clubs refuse the help? I'm just confused why everybody failed initially and why everybody passed subsequently if the neccessary support was in place..

    Many clubs were quickly successful on appeal. Do you think alerting these clubs to the required improvements and offering an extension would have been favourable to the public humiliation of the EL that resulted in the FAI's rush to compliment their own strict licencing process?
    Last edited by tiktok; 05/04/2005 at 9:22 AM. Reason: took out the reference to the toilets in Pat's, apparently they're fixed....we'll see
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    Dont know if this has been asked already but

    Where is the money that was promised last year when the clubs passed the first year of licencing?
    As I say, we're just young & a bit nieve.

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    According to press reports one club had player wages unpaid and another had a transfer fee outstanding at the time of the licensing proces. Are these grounds for failure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    Lads .... can you expand on that a bit more. Is there anymore to this and is it just yourselves have said this or have officals from clubs said this ??
    Can't really expand more on what i asked really, it was just a few wispers that i heard from high up people in a few clubs

    "It was mooted that some clubs held others back from gaining licences 1st time around, for example - People would ask questions if clubs like Galway, Derry and Bray got licences when the bigger clubs like Shamrock Rovers, Shels and Pats were struggling with there applications. Can you shed some light on this please."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roo69
    it was just a few wispers that i heard from high up people in a few clubs

    Oh right, fair enough .... i just thought that it might have been a more wide spread thing. I mean i wouldn't think there is a 1st div clubs V Prem div clubs kinda thing or anything like that (if i have understood correctly)

    I know it is a Q&A session, but if there was some issue that needed to be raised, then i'd think that now is a great time to try and fit it in (with in reason obviously)

    Good questions so far lads, if you think something is not covered then get it in there !!
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    Part of the Licensing agreement is that it is a confidential process, a confidentiality agreement is signed up to so I don't see him answering questions on any individual clubs and their applications .I'd suggest keeping questions general..
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    I say ask away and even if he cant answer on a particular situation, he will be able to shine some light on the protocol as it were, infact explaining the particular incident/situation might even explain your point better and enable him to answer more clearly and more specifcally to that situation while not mentioning it .... if you know what i mean
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    Given the public appear to view the Licence scheme as a farce, how does he believe that credibility can be restored?
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    How can the licence system be taken seriously when financial requirements are ignored? For example longford had not paid tax in 7 years, Shamrock Rovers accounts were not independently audited, most grounds fail to meet many of the basic requirement such as toilet facilities, proviosion of food and drink, provision of solid surfaces to walk on (ie tarmac or concrete). The fans know its a shambles.

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    Off topic discussion here. This thread is for questions and clarifications only.

    (Longfordonian, I understand your POV but telling other people to "check [their] facts" is not acceptable. State refuting facts or don't post please.)

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