Celtic Muppets

**noby** · 29/03/2005, 11:43 AM

In fairness, 'Simply the best' is tripe. And to play it after that awful 90 minutes of football might upset a lot of people, Celtic fans of not. Did the dj have his set made out before the match or what?

That aside, I do not endorse any sort of food throwing at dj's, unless it's custard pies at Chris Tarrant in a sort of Tiswas situation

**Junior** · 29/03/2005, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Aberdonian Stu

It is never right to start throwing food at a DJ, or anyone for that matter, and hurling abuse just because you don't like what he's playing. If they had serious issues they should complain to management not behave like lawless thugs. I don't care what team they support, this kind of behaviour should be stamped out.

I'd agree with all of that.

I don't agree with using this forum to attack anything celtic related. Would we have had a post from Saintsforever if a group of Hibs fans or Pats fans or any other group of fans had done the same thing? Probably not cause there are eejits acting the ****** in pubs the world over - Dublin is no exception, in fact probably a world leader!

This then generates in to posts from the likes of the Jamaican PM, telling me what the background of my fellow 'thicko' fans is.

Idiots for throwing stuff at the DJ, but then so are all football fans with their juvenile pet hates of rival teams.

Hows that?

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**TheJamaicanP.M.** · 29/03/2005, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Rovers Fellow!

Oh yes jamaican pm. That post i wrote was obviously very difficult to put together because im obviously from an anti-social area and of course i have little education too, I actually needed to get a friend of mine from a middle/upper class back ground to help me out with grammar and spelling etc, (and still i managed to make some mistakes!!

Your friend still made some spelling mistakes.
BTW, I said that the majority of Celtic fans in this country display those characteristics. That means that there are some Celtic supporters who come from good stock.

**Pat O' Banton** · 29/03/2005, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.

The majority of Celtic fans on this island have little education, come from anti-social areas, and pride themselves on their sectarian, militant views.

My, my how right you are I'm from a council estate and support Celtic, however your unneseccary generalisation falls down at the fact that I got to uni (and not as the janitor either!) and now look I have a job and can even use a computer. Don't forget my boy that if it weren't for working class people you wouldn't even have a sport of the nature of football to watch, you'd still be watching hockey.

Also you should maybe think about noting that as a Celtic fan I deplore sectarianism (as does every Celtic fan I've ever met - vast majority were socialists you see) so quit with the crass sweeping statements, it does nothing for your argument.

**eirebhoy** · 29/03/2005, 12:18 PM

I was actually in my local pub watching the Ireland-England rugby game a few weeks ago and once God save the Queen came a few people start shouting at the barman to lower it down. I had to laugh. For some reason I doubt what you seen in the Submarine was any different. For one, I doubt there were 15 people at a table all wearing Celtic tops, and two, they would have been thrown out if it was anything serious. FFS, this anti-Celticness drives me crazy.

Why is it anti-Celtic? Because nobody comes on here after an Ireland game telling how a few Irish people wanted the TV turned down when GSTQ comes on. And that happens in every "local" bar when England-Ireland play.

**Poor Student** · 29/03/2005, 12:24 PM

That song being played at Ibrox had a very triumphalist attitude to it and eventually had to be banned as it had been warped by many into having sectarian lyrics. It's a song that really grates Celtic fans. Of course the behaviour was barbaric by any standards but then again drink makes a lot of people behave like arses. Lovely sweeping generalisations there btw PM.

**Hibs4Ever** · 29/03/2005, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

I was actually in my local pub watching the Ireland-England rugby game a few weeks ago and once God save the Queen came a few people start shouting at the barman to lower it down. I had to laugh. For some reason I doubt what you seen in the Submarine was any different. For one, I doubt there were 15 people at a table all wearing Celtic tops, and two, they would have been thrown out if it was anything serious. FFS, this anti-Celticness drives me crazy.

Why is it anti-Celtic? Because nobody comes on here after an Ireland game telling how a few Irish people wanted the TV turned down when GSTQ comes on. And that happens in every "local" bar when England-Ireland play.

You can doubt what ever you want about the amount of people at one table, but unless you were there you can't comment in ANY way on it.

And how do you know it happens with GSTQ in EVERY local bar?????

Seems you live your life on what you like to believe and think you know

**TheJamaicanP.M.** · 29/03/2005, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Pat O' Banton

My, my how right you are I'm from a council estate and support Celtic, however your unneseccary generalisation falls down at the fact that I got to uni (and not as the janitor either!) and now look I have a job and can even use a computer. Don't forget my boy that if it weren't for working class people you wouldn't even have a sport of the nature of football to watch, you'd still be watching hockey.

Also you should maybe think about noting that as a Celtic fan I deplore sectarianism (as does every Celtic fan I've ever met - vast majority were socialists you see) so quit with the crass sweeping statements, it does nothing for your argument.

If you read my post correctly, I said that the "majority" of Celtic fans are as I described them. I'll stand by what I said. Also, I was talking about Celtic "fans" in Ireland. I don't doubt that you're a well-educated person Pat, but I'm simply pointing to the fact that a lot of scum follow Celtic. As for working-class people, I have nothing against them. They're the grassroots of the game. Unfortunately, it would appear that many working-class people in this country think that sectarianism is acceptable. Did nobody ever tell these skangers that the founder of Irish republicanism was a Protestant? I wouldnt mind, if there was a war in the morning, they'd be the first people to shy away from it.

Socialist Celtic fans...

**drinkfeckarse** · 29/03/2005, 1:01 PM

Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.

The majority of Celtic fans on this island have little education, come from anti-social areas, and pride themselves on their sectarian, militant views.

Quite possibly the dumbest post I've read in a long time...

**TheJamaicanP.M.** · 29/03/2005, 1:03 PM

Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

Quite possibly the dumbest post I've read in a long time...

You know it makes sense. The JamaicanPM is never wrong.

**eirebhoy** · 29/03/2005, 1:06 PM

SAINTS4EVER - Unless I'm mistaking you for someone else you basically hate Celtic. If it was someone else that opened this thread fine but you seem to want to take every opportunity to get at Celtic fans. We all know there are a load of idiots in Ireland that wear Celtic jersey's. If we had to open a thread every time there were rows in pubs this site would be ransacked.

TheJamaicanP.M. - Don't give the people you are talking about the priviledge of calling them Celtic fans. If all these people were actually Celtic fans I wouldn't be supporting the club.

**Pat O' Banton** · 29/03/2005, 1:10 PM

Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.

If you read my post correctly, I said that the "majority" of Celtic fans are as I described them. I'll stand by what I said. Also, I was talking about Celtic "fans" in Ireland. I don't doubt that you're a well-educated person Pat, but I'm simply pointing to the fact that a lot of scum follow Celtic. As for working-class people, I have nothing against them. They're the grassroots of the game. Unfortunately, it would appear that many working-class people in this country think that sectarianism is acceptable. Did nobody ever tell these skangers that the founder of Irish republicanism was a Protestant? I wouldnt mind, if there was a war in the morning, they'd be the first people to shy away from it.

Socialist Celtic fans...

... and here was me ready for a cyber ruck

Yes I read the 'majority' of Celtic fans and the 'in Ireland' bit and still can't agree with it, I know many Celtic fans who were born and brought up in Ireland (and many are very good freinds) and I certainly would not describe these as scum , they are some of the most genuine, generous and warm hearted people I know - ohh I'm going all Gyneth Paltrow here. (however, I agree that I have met some green and white hooped shirts that I would cross the road from speaking to.)

Going back to the what I typed earlier everyone of them is anti sectarian the very nature of their politics

Completely agree about Wolfe Tone and educating any sectarian 'nationalist' person on his background (Robert Emmett while we are at it) and if they were the genuine article Celtic fan they should also be aware of Stein, Dalglish, McGrain and Peacock's discenting faith.
(As I say stop with the sweeping arguments they undermine points that could be valid)

**TheJamaicanP.M.** · 29/03/2005, 1:10 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

SAINTS4EVER - Unless I'm mistaking you for someone else you basically hate Celtic. If it was someone else that opened this thread fine but you seem to want to take every opportunity to get at Celtic fans. We all know there are a load of idiots in Ireland that wear Celtic jersey's. If we had to open a thread every time there were rows in pubs this site would be ransacked.

TheJamaicanP.M. - Don't give the people you are talking about the priviledge of calling them Celtic fans. If all these people were actually Celtic fans I wouldn't be supporting the club.

Fair points eirebhoy. As ever, you speak some common sense. I know there are genuine Celtic fans. It just p!sses me off that numerous scum-bags hi-jack the Celtic theme for political/sectarian reasons. Football and politics should not mix, and I despise those who try to mix them.

**Hibs4Ever** · 29/03/2005, 1:19 PM

Yes EIREBOY i do hate Ceptic.

And thats mainly because of so called "fans" like the ones I'm talking about

MUPPETS

**eirebhoy** · 29/03/2005, 1:24 PM

Originally Posted by SAINTS4EVER

Yes EIREBOY i do hate Ceptic.

And thats mainly because of so called "fans" like the ones I'm talking about

MUPPETS

Its clear you can distinguish these types of people from the actual fans as you have called them "so called". Next step: Distinguish them from the actual club.

Do you honestly think they even know Celtic's first 11? They haven't a bloody clue.

**pedro** · 29/03/2005, 2:11 PM

i think the celtic fans are gettin bit of unfair criticism. fair enough, by and large in ireland you do get a disproportionate amount of fans in places like
tallaght, ballymun etc, who give it a bad image but what about thje decent fans who r gettin tarred with same brush? i've been to a few celtic games and i dont feel i fit into the same stereotype that everyone here is talking about. also at these games i've been to,all i have experienced was comraderery, togetherness and a feeling of goodwill to our fellow supporters. it may seem a bit far fetched to those on the outside looking in but that's how it is and few f**king idiots who act like saps isnt going to tarnish the realtionship i have with Celtic.
its a bit of a rant ,i know but im very very drunk , sorry.

**AmenToThat** · 29/03/2005, 3:16 PM

Originally Posted by SAINTS4EVER

Was in The Submarine Bar for the match on Saturday. About an hour after the match was over the DJ came on. The atmosphere was good, everyone enjoying themselves as much as they could after the result. The the DJ played TINA TURNER - SIMPLY THE BEST this was when the table of about 15 lads all wearing Ceptic jerseys start going f*cking MAD, screaming and shouting abuse at DJ, throwing beer mats and bits of food at him, then singing hail hail,

Just because THE BEST was played at Ibrox

MUPPETS

So some lads in Celtic jerseys throw a wobbler and we get a thread called 'Celtic muppets'

There was a story in the papers the other day about some Africans who were involved in criminal activity in Dublin I better go post a thread about about those 'Nigerian robbers'

You sir are a clown and a bigot.

**Dotsy** · 29/03/2005, 3:17 PM

Originally Posted by pedro

i think the celtic fans are gettin bit of unfair criticism. fair enough, by and large in ireland you do get a disproportionate amount of fans in places like
tallaght, ballymun etc, who give it a bad image but what about thje decent fans who r gettin tarred with same brush? i've been to a few celtic games and i dont feel i fit into the same stereotype that everyone here is talking about. also at these games i've been to,all i have experienced was comraderery, togetherness and a feeling of goodwill to our fellow supporters. it may seem a bit far fetched to those on the outside looking in but that's how it is and few f**king idiots who act like saps isnt going to tarnish the realtionship i have with Celtic.
its a bit of a rant ,i know but im very very drunk , sorry.

"dispoportionate amount of fans in places like tallaght, ballymun"

Jesus wept son you don't have a clue do you. I've played football for 25 years in this city and players and fans I've met from places like tallaght and ballymun are amongst the most knowledgeable about football and down to earth people. Talk about tarring people with the same brush.

**AmenToThat** · 29/03/2005, 3:23 PM

This thread is a disgrace.
So full of nasty stereotyping its not even funny.
Its being used to slander people from 'working class backrounds' for want of a better word, how far a jump from that is it to slander people from ethnic minorities?

**tiktok** · 29/03/2005, 3:24 PM

Originally Posted by AmenToThat

You sir are a clown and a bigot.

Bigot? So Celtic Fans booing Rangers players at Landsdowne isn't bigotry, but saints4ever calling Celtic fans 'muppets' is

Originally Posted by Dotsy

I've played football for 25 years in this city and players and fans I've met from places like tallaght and ballymun are amongst the most knowledgeable about football and down to earth people.

I agree with what you've said Dotsy, but this really reads like ''I'm not racist, sure don't I work with a black fella''