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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Indulge me, what have you taken exception to? Why the lashing out rather than calmly addressing the points made. Getting in to a rage undermines your posts. I know plenty about LoI and SRFC - having a different perspective on what happens is not necessarily ridiculous or lacking in 'education. Points are are often made on opinion or interpretaton of facts, it doesnt mean points are automatically incorrect if you disagree. Why dont you engage in discussion instead of jumping straight in with accusations and childish namecalling along with agressive choice language. Be thankful you support a very lucky club that has not ceased to exist at times of adversity. Hard work needs a dollop of good luck too....
    Listen I tried to indulge you and you said I was evasive (god knows where you got that from) and you asked questions about stuff that shamrock rovers as a club have actually publicly stated and has been gone over multiple times here (I'm actually fairly sure I've even told you them specifically before). You're points were not a misinterpretation of facts they were just plain wrong. As for knowing plenty about srfc your posts say the exact opposite, either that or you were being deliberately obtuse. Then you topped it all off by calling probably the most unlucky club in the country lucky because you decided to use very specific time lines to suit your agenda.

    You did all this to deflect from the fact that the facts show that Dundalks business plan isn't working and is costing their owners money, for an investment firm that is not a good thing, as that quite rightly scares you so you try deflect by coming out with a load of rubbish and getting offended when it's pointed out how stupid you're being.

    What exactly is so lucky about Rovers exactly?

    Also a bit of swearing = aggressive now does it? Grow the **** up.

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    So where did you get the figures of 1mil being injected by the owners of Dundalk FC? asked for the umpteenth time with no answer! If you dont think aspects of uour posts were angry and agressive you need to have a good read back and seek some anger managment guidance it was a tad more than 'a bit of swearing'.. Rovers are still a lucky club, how long is the clug on the go and how long without a permanent home? You are hardly basing your assessment of SRFC on the specific time frame between the loss of Milltown for nothing and the gaining of Tallaght for nothing!? Luckier than Druncondra, Kilkenny, Monaghan, any club that has gone out of business. So unlucky that you top league and cup wins....I dont need to resort to insults or hissy fits, people can see how you behave when anything is said that doesnt sit in line with your own blinkered view on things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    So where did you get the figures of €1mil being injected by the owners of Dundalk FC? asked for the umpteenth time with no answer! If you dont think aspects of uour posts were angry and agressive you need to have a good read back and seek some anger managment guidance it was a tad more than 'a bit of swearing'.. Rovers are still a lucky club, how long is the clug on the go and how long without a permanent home? You are hardly basing your assessment of SRFC on the specific time frame between the loss of Milltown for nothing and the gaining of Tallaght for nothing!? Luckier than Druncondra, Kilkenny, Monaghan, any club that has gone out of business. So unlucky that you top league and cup wins....I dont need to resort to insults or hissy fits, people can see how you behave when anything is said that doesnt sit in line with your own blinkered view on things.
    Clearly your reading skills aren't great

    Quote Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop View Post
    It was in a piece in the independent.
    You seem to be unable to grasp the difference between hard work and luck

    The irony levels are through the roof here
    Last edited by RathfarnhamHoop; 31/08/2019 at 6:02 PM.

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    JEEZ some load of tosh there lads we all love our clubs but the childish we have more fans, youse have more money, your ground is ****e, youse got a free ground is extreme numptyism. Will we get off this rock before it goes tits up, just dont know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingswood Rover View Post
    JEEZ some load of tosh there lads we all love our clubs but the childish we have more fans, youse have more money, your ground is ****e, youse got a free ground is extreme numptyism. Will we get off this rock before it goes tits up, just dont know.
    Agreed., even the last bit, which makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalymountrower View Post
    Agreed., even the last bit, which makes no sense.
    Are we mature enough as a species to not blow ourselves up or fcuk up the planet to the extent that there is no footy before we find a new one

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    Quote Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop View Post
    Clearly your reading skills aren't great



    You seem to be unable to grasp the difference between hard work and luck

    The irony levels are through the roof here
    More pensonalised insults!

    Where is the irony?

    Have you really answered where you got your €1mil figure from, What was in the independant, how Rovers spent spent grant money paying players and made a mess of their Tallaght project, i bet it was hard work keeping that under wraps all right!! If you say something was quoted in a paper link the piece. Rovers are a lucky club, it was in The Time...
    Last edited by Nesta99; 01/09/2019 at 1:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingswood Rover View Post
    JEEZ some load of tosh there lads we all love our clubs but the childish we have more fans, youse have more money, your ground is ****e, youse got a free ground is extreme numptyism. Will we get off this rock before it goes tits up, just dont know.
    You may well be right, but seeing how quickly and how often RH loses the plot, has a hissy fit, resorts to name calling is quite amusing!

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    Some interesting stuff here.Knew most of the figures about splitting the gate etc in cup matches...but some interesting points from the Sligo treasurer.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/cash-as-much-of-an-incentive-as-cup-glory-for-sligo-rovers-1.4032854

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    Yea hats off to the sligo supporters for keeping the whole show on the road years after year.

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    Gas that the FAI promised that anything over break even for the 2010 final would be given to the clubs and that they reneged on it then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redarmyfaction View Post
    Gas that the FAI promised that anything over break even for the 2010 final would be given to the clubs and that they reneged on it then.
    A shame that didn't make its way into the media at the time (or at least 'more' into the media if it did).

    Signs even 9yrs ago that all was not well financially with Delaney's empire.

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    Key part for me there is

    Nonetheless, the club still had over €1.3 million to its name
    If they burn through another €1.2m this year, the Euro cash will be effectively gone. What happens then?

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    To try and put a bit of perspective on Dundalks losses ... What Dundalk lost in 2019 is the cost of running Sligo Rovers completely from top to bottom for that season.

    When you think of the money they took in plus the state of Oriel it really is madness.
    Manager: Fergal, have you your boots with ya?
    Fergal: Ya, I have them here.
    Manager: Ah good stuff, well give them to this man so, he forgot his!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redobit View Post
    To try and put a bit of perspective on Dundalks losses ... What Dundalk lost in 2019 is the cost of running Sligo Rovers completely from top to bottom for that season.

    When you think of the money they took in plus the state of Oriel it really is madness.
    It is worrying indeed. There is some small solace in that the figures were released rather than hideen. It also includes facilitiy improvement, not that supporters will see that directly. Recent interviews with Bob Hulsizer also give some little reassurance. The questions on sustainability and lack of ground improvements will roll on with such monies spent. Let European football commence sooner that later....

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    I'm no Accountant, so am in no position to analyse these figures to be good or bad.

    But the club will have had a good idea of how the figures were shaping up by the end of last year.

    Which was also when CEO Mark Devlin, only appointed in April 2019, departed Oriel Park:
    https://www.todayfm.com/sport/dundal...-months-921757

    He says it was for "family reasons", which may be entirely correct, but to relocate to another country then move back after just 7 months is fairly drastic.

    At a minimum, it might have been an easier decision to make if he could also see that his budgets were liable to be curtailed in 2020?

    Which, of course, was before taking Covid-19 into account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    It also includes facilitiy improvement, not that supporters will see that directly.
    That was a bit of a strange one - it sounds like something which would normally be capitalised, and so would actually not be included on the €1.2m (well, it might be depreciated over 10 years, in which case 10% of the cost would have gone in)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    It is worrying indeed. There is some small solace in that the figures were released rather than hideen. It also includes facilitiy improvement, not that supporters will see that directly. Recent interviews with Bob Hulsizer also give some little reassurance. The questions on sustainability and lack of ground improvements will roll on with such monies spent. Let European football commence sooner that later....
    All clubs who apply for a UEFA Licence must publish their accounts on their website as part of achieving the licence.

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    From memory there was far more detail in the 2018 accounts published. Looks like the bare minimum is shown in the 2019 accounts.

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