June 4: Lansdowne Rd.

**Cosmo** · 04/04/2005, 10:52 AM

Yeah the later the ko the better - the more jarred the supporters are, the better the atmosphere will be

- happy days

**Junior** · 04/04/2005, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmo

Yeah the later the ko the better - the more jarred the supporters are, the better the atmosphere will be

- happy days

******xxxxxx - when have we ever had a 17:30 kick off on a Saturday?

I always stay over for the Saturday games but this time I decided a short stay was enough and booked to head back on the Saturday evening. Flight is at 19:45, only booked it during the week as well.

Fur fux sake

**soccerc** · 04/04/2005, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by SAINTS4EVER

5.30pm kick off

Should get to see it ok in Canaries

I HOPE

Very unlikely that you'll see it in the Canaries due to the angle of satellite.

If it is a 3pm start then you may be lucky to pick up first half hour or so - If it is a 5:30pm kick-off forget about it.

Learned my lesson for the 2003 Cup final between Pats and Town

**Peadar** · 04/04/2005, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by soccerc

If it is a 5:30pm kick-off forget about it.

It's listed on FAI.ie as a 17:30 K.O.

**joeraki** · 04/04/2005, 4:37 PM

Maybe its 5.30pm because pubs and all that don't open on Saturdays in Israel until 7.30pm

**Cowboy** · 04/04/2005, 5:29 PM

Originally Posted by soccerc

Very unlikely that you'll see it in the Canaries due to the angle of satellite.

what are you talking about man??

**soccerc** · 04/04/2005, 6:25 PM

Originally Posted by Cowboy

what are you talking about man??

Simple, as the game is only live on RTE it is impossible for any users of Irish Sky Cards on any of the Canary Islands to receive a signal from the astra satellite.

Sky transmit RTE on the North Beam Astra D 28.2 east which is only receivable in The Canaries on aidsh larger than 2 m from approx 4am to 4pm due to the angle of the earth in relation to the fixed satellite position.

**cullenswood** · 04/04/2005, 7:20 PM

Originally Posted by soccerc

Simple, as the game is only live on RTE it is impossible for any users of Irish Sky Cards on any of the Canary Islands to receive a signal from the astra satellite.

Sky transmit RTE on the North Beam Astra D 28.2 east which is only receivable in The Canaries on aidsh larger than 2 m from approx 4am to 4pm due to the angle of the earth in relation to the fixed satellite position.

Here comes the science bit???!!

**Cowboy** · 04/04/2005, 8:27 PM

Its nothing to do with the angle of the earth, its to do with whats known as the satellites fooprint but I'm not going to bore everyone here with the technicalities.

RTE reception is perfectly possible in the canaries using a large enough dish, good lnb and good cable ( I know this as I've done it) Astra 2d is actually higher in the sky in the canaries as all geo stationary satellites are located above the equator.

Originally Posted by soccerc

Simple, as the game is only live on RTE it is impossible for any users of Irish Sky Cards on any of the Canary Islands to receive a signal from the astra satellite.

Sky transmit RTE on the North Beam Astra D 28.2 east which is only receivable in The Canaries on aidsh larger than 2 m from approx 4am to 4pm due to the angle of the earth in relation to the fixed satellite position.

**Saint Tom** · 04/04/2005, 9:26 PM

col, as far as i'm aware our tickets (pats) are no longer dependent on unfilled allocations. we now have a committed figure and as such are block booked. correct me if wrong....

17:30 is an all day session

**soccerc** · 04/04/2005, 9:58 PM

Originally Posted by Cowboy

Its nothing to do with the angle of the earth, its to do with whats known as the satellites fooprint but I'm not going to bore everyone here with the technicalities.

RTE reception is perfectly possible in the canaries using a large enough dish, good lnb and good cable ( I know this as I've done it) Astra 2d is actually higher in the sky in the canaries as all geo stationary satellites are located above the equator.

I was trying to make it simple for people to understand without getting into the technicalities of it.

If you can get RTE between the hours of 4pm and 4am then there is a job for you on the islands. RTE's footprint from Astra 2d is not very strong and is only on the North Beam. It is not meant for reception in the Canaries, just like ITV and BBC has been transmitte don reduced power for a while too causing the Brit ex pats grief.. By investing in a top of the range LNB, A 3m dish plus the oxygen free cable may provide some coverage I'm afraid that it still rarely works. Irish bar owners on the three main islands have been seeking a solution for years to no avail. Maybe you should give them a tinkle and make some money from them

**soccerc** · 04/04/2005, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Saint Tom

col, as far as i'm aware our tickets (pats) are no longer dependent on unfilled allocations. we now have a committed figure and as such are block booked. correct me if wrong....

17:30 is an all day session

Right and wrong. The el clubs allocation are now on a block book basis but it was made clear from the start that tickets are not guaranteed for the Swiss or French games - it is dependant upon those countries allocations not been availed of in full.

**Cowboy** · 04/04/2005, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by soccerc

I was trying to make it simple for people to understand without getting into the technicalities of it.

what by talking nonesense about the "angle of the earth" or was it the "angle of the satellite".

Might have been easier to just say Irish bars have reception difficulties.

PS for Peadars benefit any bars (or individuals) in the canary Islands trying show RTE from the astra 2d satellite located at 28 degrees east of south in a geostationary orbit above the equator.

**Peadar** · 05/04/2005, 8:47 AM

Originally Posted by Cowboy

Might have been easier to just say Irish bars have reception difficulties.

Surely then people could have assumed that the problem was specific to Irish bars!?

**stickyjoe** · 05/04/2005, 9:37 AM

the match is on SKY as well, so i dont think you`ll need to get anyone in the canaries to buy a new satellite for this game

**Bring Back Mick** · 05/04/2005, 12:22 PM

So why have the FAI changed the ko time................bang goes a night out in Mayo

**carricksmasher** · 10/04/2005, 11:14 AM

looks like a day trip for me, anyone flying over from stanstead for the game?

**Green Tribe** · 12/04/2005, 5:17 PM

Originally Posted by carricksmasher

looks like a day trip for me, anyone flying over from stanstead for the game?

will be over from glasgow prestwick, got no ticket yet though....anyone can help that would be great...alright the_bonk? how is tel-aviv surviving without the Irish, have they managed to restock the bars again?

**jaykay** · 04/05/2005, 1:12 PM

Originally Posted by Saints4Ever

5.30pm kick off

Should get to see it ok in Canaries

I HOPE

I rang the FAI last week about this - apparently KO is 7:30PM. Its on the website as that too. I dont remember any previous internationals starting at that time on a Saturday