Shels Stad move still on?!

**A face** · 28/03/2005, 11:31 PM

Right ..... if Shels f�ck this one up ...... they'll have themselves to blame.

Fair enough move if you have ambition and it can be realised

If it cant

Then dont f�cking move !! ..... it aint rocket science !!

Right now ..... Tolka is fine for what you need.
The new site (it seems) is not anywhere near that AND more importantly WILL NEVER BE NEAR THAT !!

That is where the alarm bells should be sounding very very loudly, if it aint what you need, the DONT move there.

Or else there'll be more negitive press about ye in Dublin, and you dont really need that right now ..... or ever.

**ThatGuy** · 28/03/2005, 11:36 PM

Even die-hard Shels fans would accept that the club is not making any profits, so I can't see a move to the stadium in the forseeable future. Probably will only ever happen if they qualify for the Champions League, which will be very tough for them to do, to put it mildly.

**higgins** · 29/03/2005, 11:32 AM

Qualify for champions League?

Its to be funded from the sale of Tolka Park. The money made from the sale is to go towards the cost of the new site and the building of the stadium.

**BobtheDrog** · 30/03/2005, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by higgins

Qualify for champions League?

Its to be funded from the sale of Tolka Park. The money made from the sale is to go towards the cost of the new site and the building of the stadium.

cant sell the ground until the new one is 2 thirds completed, introduced after what happned to rovers

**Slash/ED** · 31/03/2005, 1:37 AM

Originally Posted by BobtheDrog

cant sell the ground until the new one is 2 thirds completed, introduced after what happned to rovers

That wont stop them spending the money that will be earned from the sale of the ground on the new ground

And if that's true whoever came up with that rule deserves alot of praise.

**Ringo** · 31/03/2005, 7:40 AM

Originally Posted by higgins

Qualify for champions League?

Its to be funded from the sale of Tolka Park. The money made from the sale is to go towards the cost of the new site and the building of the stadium.

This has been discussed many times. They can't sell what they don't own. They have a long lease for a football ground. The land belonggs to the people of Dublin. Its not going to happen.

**pete** · 31/03/2005, 8:57 AM

Originally Posted by Ringo

This has been discussed many times. They can't sell what they don't own. They have a long lease for a football ground. The land belonggs to the people of Dublin. Its not going to happen.

Exactely. Best Ollie can do is try PR campaign to convince the local authority to "donate" a percentage of the sale.

**thejollyrodger** · 31/03/2005, 9:56 AM

The anyone but shels (ABS) supporters think it wont happen. Well if it wasnt possible to get money from the sale of Tolka to fund the new ground then Shels wouldnt be looking for a new home. Shels are going to get some money from Tolka, obviously not the full amount since Dublin city own it. But it will be enough for us to build a new stadium.

**manic da hoop** · 31/03/2005, 10:27 AM

I was of the opinion that it was the 99 year lease on the site that Shels owned that they would be selling. This in itself (provided they could get the land re-zoned for residential) could go for anything up the �15million. The council may own the land, but shels own the lease AFAIK.

**exile** · 31/03/2005, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by A face

And to be honest ...... are Shels even advertising properly ? are any dub clubs advertising properly ? are any clubs advertising properly ?

bray to all lot of heavy adveristing in south county dublin and bray cant go anywhere in the town without seeing a poster for the next match

**pete** · 31/03/2005, 11:44 AM

You'll often see small posters for shel$ games around town. Virtually never see posters for other dublin clubs but they probably concentrate on their local communities more whereas shel$ don't really have much local community that i've noticed which would explain ground move.

**BohDiddley** · 31/03/2005, 1:56 PM

A long way from home

**Slash/ED** · 31/03/2005, 2:37 PM

Originally Posted by Ringo

This has been discussed many times. They can't sell what they don't own. They have a long lease for a football ground. The land belonggs to the people of Dublin. Its not going to happen.

Well that's not what we think, we're selling the lease on it and we will make enough money to cover toe new stadium. Why the bleedin' hell would we basically give up a stadium for free if we couldn't get a penny for it and move to a new stadium that will cost more than it takes to run the club for a decade?

**Schumi** · 31/03/2005, 2:41 PM

My understanding was that the council would effectively buy Shels out of their lease so that they could sell the land for housing. It'd be worth their (council's) while because otherwise they'd be waiting 60 years (or however long Shels' lease is) to sell.

**Da Real Rover** · 31/03/2005, 3:30 PM

But how much do they think the new stadium will cost???

**Bald Student** · 31/03/2005, 3:36 PM

Originally Posted by Da Real Rover

But how much do they think the new stadium will cost???

They say 10 million for land and 17 million for buildings.

**Da Real Rover** · 31/03/2005, 3:43 PM

Is there any terraces going in???

**Slash/ED** · 31/03/2005, 4:27 PM

Originally Posted by Da Real Rover

Is there any terraces going in???

Not as far as I know but some fans are trying to make them get terraces put in. Personally I'd rather all seater with one end where everyone stands anyway like we have now, so we don't end up all over the place for Europe.

**thejollyrodger** · 31/03/2005, 5:01 PM

an all seater stadium is the way to go. We can play all our European games there. The best seats are the seats in the San Siro. Effectively it is like a terrace. I dont know if we can get away with that here but it would be great.

**Ringo** · 31/03/2005, 6:44 PM

Originally Posted by Slash/ED

Well that's not what we think, we're selling the lease on it and we will make enough money to cover toe new stadium. Why the bleedin' hell would we basically give up a stadium for free if we couldn't get a penny for it and move to a new stadium that will cost more than it takes to run the club for a decade?

With a lease, you can sell it on, but only with the landlords consent. If Dublin City Council want to they can refuse to allow shels to sell to a third party. Why would the City Council give a private Company( which shels is) a load of money? Where would they get it & why wouldn't every other Dublin club not feel cheated.