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    What difference does it make to her ability to do the job?

    This is a ceremonial role, it's not that difficult. It's been a cushy retirement home for the current incumbent for the last 7 years, so understandably he wants another 7 to sit there and do nothing 300 odd days of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    What difference does it make to her ability to do the job?
    What concerns me about it is what it says about her ability to understand complex information and base her actions on evidence rather than the anecdote put forward by the last person to speak to her.

    Most of the job is ceremonial but meetings of the Council of State happen with some regularity because the President is occasionally presented with complex constitutional issues to consider.

    We need someone in the office with enough wit to take their child for the MMR given that the MMR vaccine prevents illnesses with potentially catastrophic consequences, and that there is a mountain of research into the MMR, all of which has found it to be safe.

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    I'll admit, I'm already a bit weary of the large-scale focus on campaign financing that seems to have taken over media coverage. With the exception of Joan Freeman's 120K loan from Des Walsh of Herbalife - hardly the best source of funds, even if speaking purely on a perception basis - there's nothing shocking to be uncovered really.
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    I think that given the likely non-competetive nature of the election race itself, the media will have to scrabble round for anything to generate noise.

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    Freeman was nominally a decent candidate given her work with Pieta House but her dodgy funding, ant choice views and bizarre denials of knowledge of the Iona Institute that her niece is part of and that she moves in similar circles too have undermined her in my eyes.

    Casey is a plonker. Anyone stupid enough to post a video of them driving a golf ball into the sea is too idiotic to be president. Is he just there as an attack dog for Gallagher?

    Ni Riada may have backed away from the anti-vax stuff, but anto vaxxers pretty much always pretend not to be anti-vax. Throw in her fluoridation concerns and there are serious question marks as to her judgement.

    Gallagher hid for 7 years, was involved in not a single public issue and now seems to feel entitled to a hearing because he was harshly treated last time. Even though the tweet in the case was fake, the central allegation of being an FF bag man was essentially true. And he is still the proxy FF man TBH.

    Duffy could scarcely be more out of touch. Hunting FFS? Has various worrying tendencies and is also clearly the guy for FG voters who need a home.

    Can't get past the suspicion that the presidency is be used as a chance to boost profiles as much as anything.

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    https://www.rte.ie/news/presidential...ntial-debates/

    Higgins won't take part in every planned debate for reasons that aren't really outlined. He also takes what I can only describe as a not-so-subtle dig at candidates who can't speak Irish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    What difference does it make to her ability to do the job?

    This is a ceremonial role, it's not that difficult. It's been a cushy retirement home for the current incumbent for the last 7 years, so understandably he wants another 7 to sit there and do nothing 300 odd days of the year.
    The president is a representative of Ireland on the world stage. I'd prefer not to have a pure fanny doing that job

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    Quote Originally Posted by backstothewall View Post
    6 names on the ballot. No more nominations possible

    - Casey, Peter (Ind)
    - Duffy, Gavin (Ind)
    - Freeman, Joan (Ind)
    - Gallagher, Seán (Ind)
    - Higgins, Michael D (Ind)
    - Ní Riada, Liadh (SF)

    I'll be shocked if Higgins isn't re-elected on the 1st count.
    Half from Dragon's Den. As OMC would say, "how bizarre". Talk about a split vote and who actually watches that programme? There's a good chance that Ni Riada could come second on the first count, assuming that Higgins gets a high vote. Gavin Duffy would be too pompous for me. Not sure who I'd vote for.
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    WTAF was Gallagher thinking? He disappears from public life for seven years and this is the message on his return? Bloody hell.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1048875833064972288

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    I got to the second line of that and promptly snorted in derision.
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    The reply on there "vogon poetry at it's finest" made me proper laugh out loud.

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    RedC/PaddyPower opinion poll has Higgins on 70% of the first preference vote. Gallagher on 15% and nobody else getting more than 6%.

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    Biggest vote get in Presidential elections was Dev in 59, with 56%. That was against one opponent, so to have an apparent following of more than that when facing five is very indicative of how ineffectual the five are.

    The debates will be interesting insofar as how those five try and do anything to change that. You can expect a few attempts at baiting Higgins into saying something he shouldn't. But he really does just need to stay quiet and keep saying the platitudes.
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    It's such a huge lead that it hardly matters that Gallagher is on 15%. The only possible way this can become competitive is if someone can produce a video of Higgins smoking crack or having sex with a farmyard animal. In the event that something like that happens it feels like the others have more or less got an equal chance of picking up the most votes when his 70% go into the wind.

    The most realistic scenario for one of the others becoming president is literally that Michael D Higgins dies between now and election day.

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    The risk with polls like this is that people won't bother voting. I'm always pushing people to vote and even I'm feeling apathetic (I think the post is redundant, and the candidates are even more redundant), but hopefully the referendum will encourage people to do it since they're there anyway.

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    I'll say this: Claire Byrne having to be Higgins' mouthpiece when he can't be bothered to turn up is fairly shoddy stuff, from the President and and from RTE.
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    I read an article about it earlier, but the "journalist" didn't think to include Higgins' excuse, what did he say?

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    I haven't seen one, just a spokespersons "He told everyone what debates he would and wouldn't be attending the other week". At least for the first (radio) one he was entertaining some royals, he doesn't appear to have been doing anything last night.
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    On a day when Presidential election news is all about Casey's comments on Travellers, another poll puts Higgins at 66% support: https://www.rte.ie/news/presidential...tial-election/

    On Casey, for a man who claims to abhor Trump he sure follows the playbook. Not doing much for him mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    On a day when Presidential election news is all about Casey's comments on Travellers, another poll puts Higgins at 66% support: https://www.rte.ie/news/presidential...tial-election/

    On Casey, for a man who claims to abhor Trump he sure follows the playbook. Not doing much for him mind.
    Casey is going down the path of making blunt statements and looking for the 'tells it like it is, even if the PC brigade don't like it' vote. Maybe it's the only way to garner any publicity - this the lowest key presidential campaign I can remember.

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