QuoteI don't think they'll lose points, although Collins will probably still have to serve the ban. Maybe they can schedule it with the eL for when he's on holidays or something and then that won't be too much of an inconvenience ?
So what the story .... are Shels losing the points for this ???
What is going to happen ..... are does the rule book apply in this case ??
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
I don't think they'll lose points, although Collins will probably still have to serve the ban. Maybe they can schedule it with the eL for when he's on holidays or something and then that won't be too much of an inconvenience ?
Can you change the name of this thread.
It got me a little excited thinking they actually HAD been docked points
Which will never happen
They shouldnt loose points for something that doesnt require points to be deductedIt got me a little excited thinking they actually HAD been docked points
Which will never happen
Collins was so arrogant about this on the radio on Friday night, I hope they are docked points
He claimed he didn't read the papers and didn't know about it
That's complete rubbish. Before the season started all clubs were circulated with a list of suspensions. The league were good enough to include the 2 coach's suspensions at the bottom in a separate section. There is no way Shel's did not know about it.
for that reason alone,they should be docked the pointsOriginally Posted by Maribor
thread title amended to add in the word 'have'
otherwise way too misleading
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If a club loses three points because a sub who came on for 10 minutes and who had played for the club the previous season, had been ommitted from the original registration list sent in by the club (Athlone last year), then it would be a scandal if Shelbourne get off with this one. It will definitely prove that there is one law for some and the boot for the rest. I hope the other club delegates have the balls to ensure that the rules are adherred to.
There's a difference between a player and a coach tbh. Honestly, I would say the fairest solution would be to impose an extended ban, say 5 matches or something. It was stupid of him, but docking points for something that didn't actually happen on the field would be a bit geh.
I'd suggest a replay would be fairest (coach would probably just stand behind the dugout anyway, like Dolan did when he was sent off that time), but I don't want to lose the point!
Look, if the rules state we are docked points, then we got docked. If the rule is that we get docked, I think the rule should then go under examination and review to the hope it would be changed to be more suitable to the crime (extended ban and fine).
If the rulebook doesn't have points being deducted then I think all this talk of Shels , rule for them and a different one for others, is utter muck talk. I wouldn't mind but most of the posters seem to have worked this scenerio so far in their own minds that they are accusing us already of changing the rulebook and we have gotten away with it.
Wil lye ever cop on. If it was any other tea, ye'd be fine with a fine. Its a coach. You and I know that a ban and fine is more apt a punishment.
of course u do
UEFA dont seem to think so, but if shels think so then that is a different matter !!
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
Sure Ollie would know better than that UEFA crowd
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You sir are an idiot. Players/managers and coaches are all dealt with by the same disciplinary committee - all receive the same set of sanctions. Shels blatant disregard for the rules of our game IS A SCANDAL. possibly the biggest ever to hit th league ....and thats saying something.....I;d post this on shels web only i was banned for posting up the EXACT rules on this matter.
They should be docked for the match. Plain and simple.
The Cover up has begun.....and it stinks....luckily ure so shít on the field this season it wont matter to us....Pats for the league!
No way! That would be a bonus for Shels to have the chance to make up for a poor opener when, by all accounts, they were lucky to even get one point. A fine and an increased ban seems fair enough.
I'd suggest a replay would be fairest (coach would probably just stand behind the dugout anyway, like Dolan did when he was sent off that time), but I don't want to lose the point!
I say bring on the replay so we can get the two points we lost.I'd suggest a replay would be fairest (coach would probably just stand behind the dugout anyway, like Dolan did when he was sent off that time), but I don't want to lose the point!
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
will it be behind closed doors .......... again
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Yes it's very bad form them ignoring a ban. As my fellow Shels fan said, if it's in the rules that they get docked points, then so be it.
As for it to be the biggest scandal ever, I can't agree. There have been occassions when clubs haven't turn up for matches ( I think it was Cork vs Bohs in St. Colmans a few years ago ).
Then there was the scandal in St. Cheats where they fielded two illegible players and nearly brought the whole league down because they wouldn't accept the rules.
As for calling another fan an idiot after quite a reasonable post, that was uncalled for. Clearly you hate Shels, and it seems any of their fans too.
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