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    Quote Originally Posted by Glapots
    Well it is in Dublin anyway, if there was perhaps more 'howya's' like Robbie Keane playing rugby instead of 'ya heads' like Brian 'mommy's boy' O'Driscoll well then we could have the 6 nations. Take a reality check of course it's elitist
    'Mommy's boy'?

    1. He'd kick Keanes arse in!
    2. Have you seen Damien Duff? Now there's a mommy's boy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glapots
    Well it is in Dublin anyway, if there was perhaps more 'howya's' like Robbie Keane playing rugby instead of 'ya heads' like Brian 'mommy's boy' O'Driscoll well then we could have the 6 nations. Take a reality check of course it's elitist
    No I think the term you're looking for is not elitist but growing. Elitist actually implies that only a certain segment of the community are allowed play it. If that were the case why does the IRFU have an initiative in areas like Tallaght to promote the game.

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    Rugby is certianly starting to thrawl Dublin for players. Heard of kids in north Dublin national schools being offered scholarships in Belvedere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummerboy
    Rugby is certianly starting to thrawl Dublin for players. Heard of kids in north Dublin national schools being offered scholarships in Belvedere.

    priceless

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    IMO Taylor would become second choice keeper behind Given in a combined squad... in all likelyhood, he'll be playing in their game this weekend ahead of Carroll, plus he's first choice at a Premiership club and alongside Cunningham (and to a lesser extent, Upson), has been a rock at the centre of the club...

    A wider issue to consider would be the amalgamation of the IFA and the FAI, with subsequent loss of European places for the clubs and a loss of influence at UEFA - not something either association would fancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roboyle
    IMO Taylor would become second choice keeper behind Given in a combined squad... in all likelyhood, he'll be playing in their game this weekend ahead of Carroll, plus he's first choice at a Premiership club and alongside Cunningham (and to a lesser extent, Upson), has been a rock at the centre of the club...

    A wider issue to consider would be the amalgamation of the IFA and the FAI, with subsequent loss of European places for the clubs and a loss of influence at UEFA - not something either association would fancy.
    I don't think the loss of European places would be such a big deal. I think a combined league would increase competition and hopefully attendances and ultimately lead to higher quality entries in Europe.
    Basically the hope is that a combined league would produce quality over quantity.

    As for influence at UEFA I don't think 2 small associations have that much influence. 1 association is not going to be that much worse.

    P.S. I agree about Taylor. Very solid keeper IMO.

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    I think a poll is called for Mods what about sticking one in this thread....

    Is it true to say that if a player from the north wanted to play for Ireland they would be eligable but someone from the south can't play for the north (don't know why you'd want to but anyway)...

    If thats the case the players that want to play can try out for us

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    Jesus lads, stop thinking of the short term. If this was to happen Roy Carroll would most likely have retired. Anyway, Northern Ireland has a higher population than Dublin. Can you imagine the current Ireland squad without the Dubs of Damien Duff, Robbie Keane, Andy Reid, Kenny Cunningham, Stephen Carr, Stephen Elliott, Graham Kavanagh, etc? OK, Northern Ireland are going through a bad patch atm but it shouldn't be long before they produce a couple more George Bests.

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    Question

    Whats the highest NI has ever been in the FIFA rankings, have they ever won anything? Whats the best the have done in the WC or EC?

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    Quarter finalists in World Cup, twice or three times although one of those was in the last twelve system used in Spain 82. They qualified for Euro 84 but other than that I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eire06
    Whats the highest NI has ever been in the FIFA rankings, have they ever won anything? Whats the best the have done in the WC or EC?
    They were a win away from getting to the semi's of the 1982 WC. They won their group which contained hosts Spain. They also got out of a group containing West Germany and Czechoslovakia in the 1958 WC but were beaten by France in the Quarters. They came 3rd in their WC group in '86.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdonian Stu
    They qualified for Euro 84 but other than that I don't know.
    Never qualified for the Euros - knocked out by West Germany on goal difference in qualifying for '84.

    Played in the World Cup in '58 (quarters), '82 (second group stage/last 12) and '86 (group stages).

    As recently as '96, they finished one goal behind us.

    Quote Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
    I wouldnt want a United Ireland team. Games would have to be played outside Dublin. We would lose our identity, flag, national anthem.
    Can't understand this attitude. At the risk of getting into politics - so delete this post if needs be - any Irish person should want a united Ireland. We've lost far more of our identity from TV, the EU and the British occupation of the six counties than we ever will from having one football team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy
    They were a win away from getting to the semi's of the 1982 WC. They won their group which contained hosts Spain. They also got out of a group containing West Germany and Czechoslovakia in the 1958 WC but were beaten by France in the Quarters. They came 3rd in their WC group in '86.
    They are 111 in the Fifa Rankings at the mo..
    So nothin much out of them since 1982..

    But saying that last time we played them in 99 they bet us 1 - 0 at home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eire06
    Whats the highest NI has ever been in the FIFA rankings, have they ever won anything? Whats the best the have done in the WC or EC?
    They reached the QF in 82 I think beating the holders on the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu
    Never qualified for the Euros - knocked out by West Germany on goal difference in qualifying for '84.

    Played in the World Cup in '58 (quarters), '82 (second group stage/last 12) and '86 (group stages).

    As recently as '96, they finished one goal behind us.


    Can't understand this attitude. At the risk of getting into politics - so delete this post if needs be - any Irish person should want a united Ireland. We've lost far more of our identity from TV, the EU and the British occupation of the six counties than we ever will from having one football team.
    How do you define an Irish person? Are people from the North Irish? I consider myself an Irish nationalist and I know I dont want a united Ireland football team. Dont make assumptions, based on your own aspirations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colster
    They reached the QF in 82 I think beating the holders on the way
    Beating the hosts on the way

    Quote Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.
    I consider myself an Irish nationalist and I know I dont want a united Ireland football team.
    Me too & me neither.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.
    I consider myself an Irish nationalist and I know I dont want a united Ireland football team.
    Do you want a united Ireland though? If so, then a unified football team is a must. To not want a unified football team for the reasons being suggested here - the possibility of playing games outside of Dublin, for example - is nonsense. Similarily, I don't agree with wanting a unified team because we can get some of the North's better players (incidentally, the likes of Taylor would likely not be eligible for Ireland as he only qualifies because he's lived in England so long)

    Quote Originally Posted by Eire06
    Is it true to say that if a player from the north wanted to play for Ireland they would be eligable but someone from the south can't play for the north (don't know why you'd want to but anyway)...
    Think so. As far as I know, anyone from the North is entitled to an Irish and a British passport, with the latter allowing you to declare for Ireland. Not sure exactly how qualification for the North is determined though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu
    Do you want a united Ireland though? If so, then a unified football team is a must. To not want a unified football team for the reasons being suggested here - the possibility of playing games outside of Dublin, for example - is nonsense. Similarily, I don't agree with wanting a unified team because we can get some of the North's better players (incidentally, the likes of Taylor would likely not be eligible for Ireland as he only qualifies because he's lived in England so long.
    To be honest, I dont particularly desire a unified Ireland. If it happens, then well and good. Whatever the people of the 6 counties decide will do me grand. As for an All-Ireland football team, there is no way I will share my national team with those who abused Paul McGrath and Packie Bonner in Windsor Park in 1993.

    As for Maik Taylor, I think he was born in Germany? Not sure about the rest of his background though. I know that Jason McAteer qualified because his great-grandfather came from Co. Down. What's the story with Lee Trundle. I thought he qualified as his parents/grandparents were from the Republic, yet Northern Ireland approached him to play for them? Maybe it works both ways?
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    George Best "Merge both the national teams"

    Did any of you hear this .... the legend that is Georgie Best has suggested merging both the National teams !!

    Didn't catch the full story but that was the jist of it, dont even know what station it was on !!

    Anyone hear anything ??
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