Foot.ie PROJECT: Wikify Irish Football

**BohsFans** · 20/12/2006, 3:22 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

You are wrong about the following:

It wasn't simply a play-off for the sake of having a play-off. The game decided what teams would finish in certain positions - namely 12th and 13th.

Dundalk finished 12th in the overall standings of the 21 clubs.

Waterford finished 13th in the overall standings of the clubs.

I still don't see what it so complicated about all of this. I was simply trying to find out the relevant guidelines in the FAI's document and apply them in order to find out the actual purpose and effect of the Play-Off.

Danny all of the above quotes from me are FACT!

I'll repeat myself shall I?

It was official the eircom League Play-Off (simple as), it NEVER said on any official fixture list:

"eircom League Play-Off, The game decided what teams would finish in certain positions - namely 12th and 13th."
Dundalk vs. Waterford United

See how ridiculous that looks? That's why your wrong.

You said I am wrong with the following:

Dundalk finished SECOND in the FIRST division
Waterford finished ELEVENTH in the Premier division

eh.....http://www.soccerbot.com/fai/tables/irprem2006.htm

and http://www.soccerbot.com/fai/tables/ir1div2006.htm

Get your facts straight b4 you go calling me wrong again eh?

**DannyInvincible** · 20/12/2006, 3:31 PM

In terms of the IAG process and their allocating of assessment points (what we have been talking about for the last page or so), the Play-Off decided who would be placed in those positions.

Once again, the following is from the FAI's document on the matter. Maybe you missed it hiding near the bottom of the last page.

At the end of 2006 playing season, clubs will be allocated �competition points� on the basis of their League standings and performances in FAI & League Cups and Europe. When the total �competition points� accrued by each club is tallied, they will be ranked accordingly � the club with the highest number of competition points is ranked 1, with the club with the lowest number of competition points ranked 22 for the purposes of the IAG process.

League:
� Premier Division League winners receive 22 points, runners-up 21 points reducing on a point per position down to 1 point for bottom place in the 1st Division.

� Last place finisher in Premiership in regular season will be �relegated� => ranked #14 in league standings and allocated 9pts.

� 1st Division winner will be �promoted� => ranked #11 in league standings and allocated 12pts.

� Club finishing 11th in Premier will play off against 1st Division runners up. Winners of the play off will be finish #12 in League standings and gain 11pts. Losers of the play off will be ranked 13th and allocated 10pts.

**BohsFans** · 20/12/2006, 3:36 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

In terms of the IAG process and their allocating of assessment points (what we have been talking about for the last page or so), the Play-Off decided who would be placed in those positions.

Once again, the following is from the FAI's document on the matter. Maybe you missed it hiding near the bottom of the last page.

In case you've forgotten, I was responding to this post, where you titled the play-off

annual promotion/relegation play-off

**DannyInvincible** · 20/12/2006, 5:00 PM

Well, I'm not sure why you're still concerned with that seeing as:
i) I know and have recognised that this isn't the official name of the match.
ii) I've also recognised that dubbing it as such gives the wrong impression as it had no direct bearing on promotion or relegation in the 2006 season.
iii) I've amended the Wikipedia page to explain the situation and how Dundalk perceived it as such (or believed it should have been such).

The fact is that the play-off did decide the position of the two contesting clubs for the purpose of the IAG allocating 2006 season points. The final league positions of the two clubs before the play-off took place were not taken into account so they're irrelevant to this discussion.

**BohsFans** · 20/12/2006, 6:52 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

Well, I'm not sure why you're still concerned with that seeing as:
i) I know and have recognised that this isn't the official name of the match.
ii) I've also recognised that dubbing it as such gives the wrong impression as it had no direct bearing on promotion or relegation in the 2006 season.
iii) I've amended the Wikipedia page to explain the situation and how Dundalk perceived it as such (or believed it should have been such).

The fact is that the play-off did decide the position of the two contesting clubs for the purpose of the IAG allocating 2006 season points. The final league positions of the two clubs before the play-off took place were not taken into account so they're irrelevant to this discussion.

That's better, however I'd like to see a source for this:
Dundalk, however, argued that they had a right to compete in the Premiership following their Play-Off defeat of Waterford United. "What was the point of the league taking our players and fans all the way down to Waterford if it counted for nothing?".

**DannyInvincible** · 20/12/2006, 7:12 PM

A user named 'Candlewicke' actually included that quote. I assumed he didn't make it up. I will try and leave a message asking for a source on his talk-page.

**cavan_fan** · 20/12/2006, 8:57 PM

Originally Posted by BohsFans

That's better, however I'd like to see a source for this:
Dundalk, however, argued that they had a right to compete in the Premiership following their Play-Off defeat of Waterford United. "What was the point of the league taking our players and fans all the way down to Waterford if it counted for nothing?".

I've googled this and found no mention of it apart from wikipedia of course

**DannyInvincible** · 18/03/2007, 2:51 PM

Here is the Wikipedia page for the current season.

Some club details need filling in.

Are the crests and colours correct in this:

?

**GavinZac** · 18/03/2007, 3:14 PM

i've made colin healy's a bit better. it'd be good if every first team player in the league had at least a fact sheet.

**DannyInvincible** · 18/03/2007, 3:25 PM

Originally Posted by GavinZac

i've made colin healy's a bit better. it'd be good if every first team player in the league had at least a fact sheet.

Quite a few of the Derry City team have info-boxes.

**Dodge** · 18/03/2007, 3:30 PM

As do Pats players. Light on stats though

**DmanDmythDledge** · 18/03/2007, 4:08 PM

Is anything weird coming up on the UCD infobox on the right for anybody?

**Schumi** · 18/03/2007, 4:38 PM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Is anything weird coming up on the UCD infobox on the right for anybody?

"FC Madhatters 06" WTF?

**DmanDmythDledge** · 18/03/2007, 4:49 PM

Originally Posted by Schumi

"FC Madhatters 06" WTF?

Seems to be alright now after I made an edit.

**pineapple stu** · 18/03/2007, 4:53 PM

Can you change the away jersey?

**DmanDmythDledge** · 18/03/2007, 4:58 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Can you change the away jersey?

Yeah. I'm going out now so I'll do it later.

**Schumi** · 18/03/2007, 5:01 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Can you change the away jersey?

Already done.

**pineapple stu** · 18/03/2007, 5:04 PM

Excellent.

Can you change the crest as well now that dmenetc won't be around for a few hours?

**Tazskool** · 19/03/2007, 12:20 PM

Here is the Wiki Page a few of us are maintaining as best as possible!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wexford_Youths_F.C.

**Jerry The Saint** · 19/03/2007, 1:01 PM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Is anything weird coming up on the UCD infobox on the right for anybody?

I didn't think encyclopedia entries were supposed to have exclamation points

Notable supporters

Dave Fanning- radio DJ
Dermot Morgan- comedian and actor
Jimmy Magee- sports broadcaster
Con Houlihan-legendary sports journalist
Gerry Thornley- sports journalist
Barry Andrews- politician

I'm not sure about this bit. Con Houlihan has been identified with Pats for years, much more than any other club.

Is Gerry Thornley right as well? I know he is a fan of the league but I've heard differing reports on what club he supports.