Instead of Murphy....Who??

**niamh** · 13/02/2002, 8:29 AM

The fact that so many people are having a go at each other only proves one thing. A lot of fans are unhappy and I think we all know that. Everyone is entitled to an opinion though as we live in a supposed democracy.

There are a few things I'd like to say though:

No one outside the club will want the job with the club is the state it is at the moment.

On the pitch, performances are as important as the results. I personally would be mortified if City won ANYTHING this year the way they have been playing.

The Limerick match has just focused people's attention that there is a problem, but Limerick have been playing better lately, and City haven't been playing well at all, particularly at home.

Is the nature of football that freak results happen and that people blame the manager afterwards. I'm not saying Murphy's blameless, but he's here at City and he ain't going anywhere for the time being. We'd be better of trying to support the team, if not the management and board - some of the players still care about the club.

**dalo** · 13/02/2002, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by niamh

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No one outside the club will want the job with the club is the state it is at the moment.

On the pitch, performances are as important as the results. I personally would be mortified if City won ANYTHING this year the way they have been playing.

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i wouldn't be a bit bothered if we won a few trophies and a played hoof football. how do you think we won the league and the cup in 1993 and 1998. winning is everything.

as for no-one wanting the job at the time of writing there isn't a vacancy so that isn't a issue. as for the imagined state of the club can you prove the club is badlyrun. can you prove allegations of corruption and wrongdoing because while the likes of neil, eanna and james like to go on about such things they never prove it.

**James** · 13/02/2002, 1:38 PM

Originally posted by dalo

can you prove allegations of corruption and wrongdoing because while the likes of neil, eanna and james like to go on about such things they never prove it.

hold your frecking horses here dalo.. corruption etc etc hints at if not alledges some sort of illegal activities and I never ever ever ever said that..ok lets get that straight from day 1
all i said was they rip the fans off and seemingly dont care about fans or the club nothing illegal there (although maybe it should for a director of a football club (heehee)..

I'm getting really ****ed off with this whole debate and pointless back and forth..
dalo we all support city, so lets leave it there ok (even if u have the wool drawn completely over you eyes

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heres hoping for a new manager and a fresh start for summer soccer season

**Troy.McClure** · 13/02/2002, 2:44 PM

Originally posted by joe
Also, he is highly thought of for the way he has brought young players through and the way he works with youths - at their first home game of the season I overheard two teenagers comment on that fact, so obviously he had made a good impression, and as Pete posted earlier the current Sligo team contains a number of young players who, for the most part, didn't look out of place in the Carlsberg Cup Quarter-final with Shams the other night.

The very same could be said for our very own beloved Gunther!

BTW 2 teenagers said that he was good at bringing youths through. If there was only 1 teenager, Id say 'what does he know', but 2 teenagers, well thats conclusive proof!

Sorry for being so b!tchy, its this lack of food and a left winger thats getting to me, nothing personal.

Neil · 13/02/2002, 4:03 PM

Originally posted by Peadar
Many people are against Johnny C being manager without knowing anything about the style of management he'd employ.

Johnny C: One of the back-stabbing traitors who helped get rid Mountfield for personal gain. He'd fit the bill alright.

**joe** · 13/02/2002, 5:53 PM

Originally posted by Troy.McClure

The very same could be said for our very own beloved Gunther!

BTW 2 teenagers said that he was good at bringing youths through. If there was only 1 teenager, Id say 'what does he know', but 2 teenagers, well thats conclusive proof!

Sorry for being so b!tchy, its this lack of food and a left winger thats getting to me, nothing personal.

I don't know you, and you don't know me, so I;m going to let that one slide

**Snatch** · 13/02/2002, 6:51 PM

I believe that it is a big advantage to have a local manager for two resons.

1. He knows the set up of underage football in Cork. To be fare to Gunther, look at how many young players he has brought in from local clubs and the deal he has going on at Scoil Stiofan Naofa.

2. He naturally have a better affiliation with the fans. Dave Barry was a great example of this. Gunther is the exception that proves the rule.

For these resons I'd like to see local legend Dave Barry back at the helm should Gunther leave. I thought he didn't get the credit for turning things around last time and almost making a league winning team ofut of players like Flanagan and Colin O' Brien.

If we have a non Corkonian, it has to be Gerry McCabe. He'd bring some flair to summer football.

Johnny · 13/02/2002, 9:33 PM

Johnny C: One of the back-stabbing traitors who helped get rid Mountfield for personal gain. He'd fit the bill alright.

How thick are you ?? What personal gain ?? Traitor to who/what ?? Johnnie C- 16 yrs dedicated service to the club, over 100 goals scored V Derek Who ? Where's he working now I wonder ?? With "fans" like you...

gilzysligo · 14/02/2002, 12:06 AM

ye wouldnt get near him,hes stayin with rovers

**patsh** · 14/02/2002, 6:55 AM

Originally posted by gilzysligo
ye wouldnt get near him,hes stayin with rovers

Don't cod yourself ! If CCFC wanted him and the money was right
then never will Don play the Sligo Rover no more !! No nay never....

**Casegrande** · 14/02/2002, 7:08 AM

Don is in an intelligent man. He wouldn't come to an amateur, cowboy club like Cork City.

It's a pity but it's true.

**dalo** · 14/02/2002, 7:53 AM

how do you know this neil. you have to be able to back up such accusations. where is the proof?

**yan** · 14/02/2002, 8:21 AM

its simple

dave barry

the fans respect him
he knows the el
he knows the players

**Troy.McClure** · 14/02/2002, 11:37 AM

When DB left he said that the club needed a manager who was in football full time (like DM & LM) and that he was never going to give up his succesful pluming business. I cant really see him coming back for that reason as much as anything else. Also the fans were getting on his back at the end of his last season & I think that he ran out of ideas.

I wouldnt be atall suprised if Jonny C turned out to be a very good manager. He knows every trick in the book, is very pasionate about the game and has some coaching badges. AFIK he is the City school boy (or some youths level) manager/coach, so he would be clearly interested. I think that managers who were forwards during their playing carrers play more atractive/positive football, Alex Ferguson, Kevin Keegan, Dave Barry(well, an attacking midfielder), where as backs who go on to manage, are more defencive in their style (safety first). Unfortunitally some people already have their mind made up about Jonny C. Is membership open yet for the Jonny Out Brigade yet, I wonder?

**Troy.McClure** · 14/02/2002, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by joe

I don't know you, and you don't know me, so I;m going to let that one slide

Cheers

**�anna** · 14/02/2002, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Peadar

Many people are against Johnny C being manager without knowing anything about the style of management he'd employ.
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my only reason for not wanting him, is that I don't want ANYONE from within the club appointed. it HAS to be an outsider

**�anna** · 14/02/2002, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by dalo
can you prove allegations of corruption and wrongdoing because while the likes of neil, eanna and james like to go on about such things they never prove it.

dalo, i have never alleged any corruption. i have simply said that in terms of marketing etc, the club is badly run. most of the board would probably admit that too. also, the comments you're making are utterly libelous and I'd ask you to bear that in mind and be a bit more careful what you say.