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    Lets face it Dundalk v Cork City has turned the Cup Final into a proper occasion - average crowd the last 4 years is 26,531. Average for the last 20 years prior to that was 14,320.

    The FAI should be looking to build on this momentum and target a 30k average in the years to come, maybe get to the point where it might drive a bit of income for the league. Get attendance of 40,000 average ticket price €10 - 400k plus a % of the food / drink + a proper TV Fee - put that money into prize-money for the league etc, a vision for the fut......who am I kidding.....

    TOP 10 FAI Cup Final attendances in last 50 years:

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    We just need to get Dundalk and Cork to keep contesting the final...

    The 2010 final had a lot of novelty value attached as the Aviva was just opened and there were tickets available. That was the point at which the FAI should have been looking to build the attendance with a lot of non LoI people there. We dont know what sort of money that the Cup Final generates in total and whether there is a surplus, but surely it would have been in the FAI's interests to make the effort to promote the game, fill the stadium and cover costs and even make some money. Its seems that involves some serious effort compared to putting Celtic/Liverpool IX on a ticket and no more marketing is needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    We just need to get Dundalk and Cork to keep contesting the final...
    Like the ashes.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    Like the ashes.....
    Until this year it was about as dull!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    We all love being 4th!!

    This sort of chat always makes me laugh, biggest club blah blah. How and why will differ with each club and fan. Dundalk are currently the top club in the league and the 2nd most successful and without any phoenix club history (with some luck and hard work), on paper the wealthiest currently but have a sh1t ground. Cork currently have the highest attendances and are 2ndt best club currently. Rovers are the top club historically, have the best ground (which was more good luck than good guidance) Athlone are the oldest and Youths the youngest. By what do you gauge being the biggest club never mind a big club as a Real Madrid fan eg would be laughing at us all on this!

    As for the monopoly on arrogance, delusions and a lack of humility - we are making hay when the sun shines ;p Some Rovers fans do seem to talk as if they've a birthright to be 'biggest club' but i'd probably be no different if it were Dundalk that had 17 league titles. When Dundalk top the roll of honour in due course I will of course remind people at every opportunity. I will also take up the mantle telling everyone how everything should be done as THE model club!!

    Seriously though these p!ssing matches are pointless. Each club has its merits, its (huge) fails and nearly every fan will differ!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    The voice of reason...
    Don't forget the 24 cups by the way
    Pfft...Tin Cup (until we have 25)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgonigle View Post
    What is the criteria to be the biggest club anyway? Most trophies in all history or recent history? Best stadium? Biggest average attendance? Most money in the bank? Best European results? Biggest budget?
    Lads, I think I know how to figure out which team is Ireland's Biggest Club[FONT=arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#545454]™ [/COLOR][/FONT]we need to rank the teams based on all the criteria suggested by mcgonigle, we could set up some sort of Assessment Group that is Independent to do the ranking, that way nothing could possibly go wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArFella View Post
    Lads, I think I know how to figure out which team is Ireland's Biggest Club[FONT=arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#545454]™ [/COLOR][/FONT]we need to rank the teams based on all the criteria suggested by mcgonigle, we could set up some sort of Assessment Group that is Independent to do the ranking, that way nothing could possibly go wrong.
    Or we could continue to have fun deluding ourselves that 'our' club is the biggest fish is the tiny puddle of the world football game that is LOI
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgonigle View Post
    What is the criteria to be the biggest club anyway? Most trophies in all history or recent history? Best stadium? Biggest average attendance? Most money in the bank? Best European results? Biggest budget?
    This wouldn't end too well for Finn Harps..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    This wouldn't end too well for Finn Harps..

    Best craic Manager ..........Harps are the biggest club

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    There is far too much reliance on organic interest from LoI fans and clubs, people flicking over the tv channel etc. Whether the game has any quailty or whether there is a big game like atmosphere might generate additional interest for the following year if for the weeks in advance there was a big advertisment push....like 'cough' utilising bus stops. We were in the Gasworks pre match for example and they seemed to have no idea that the game was on and staff had that 'oh fcuk' look as busses were pulling up and swarms of fans were arriving in. Im sure they check for games at the Aviva in advance but this didnt register obviously so why?
    At 1:15pm a few of us went into Centra on Shelbourne Road, which is probably the closest shop to the Aviva, and the deli was closed. You'd wonder how clued out you'd have to be to not open it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar View Post
    At 1:15pm a few of us went into Centra on Shelbourne Road, which is probably the closest shop to the Aviva, and the deli was closed. You'd wonder how clued out you'd to be to not open it.
    Coleslaw on a Sunday?!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar View Post
    At 1:15pm a few of us went into Centra on Shelbourne Road, which is probably the closest shop to the Aviva, and the deli was closed. You'd wonder how clued out you'd to be to not open it.
    That deli does a roaring trade on Ireland match nights so they might be missing a trick.Probably doesn't open on a 'normal' Sunday as most of the office workers around are off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Best craic Manager ..........Harps are the biggest club
    Only since Kenny Shiels got the boot though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar View Post
    At 1:15pm a few of us went into Centra on Shelbourne Road, which is probably the closest shop to the Aviva, and the deli was closed. You'd wonder how clued out you'd to be to not open it.
    Not a prawn sandwich in sight there either

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArFella View Post
    Lads, I think I know how to figure out which team is Ireland's Biggest Club[FONT=arial, sans-serif][COLOR=#545454]™ [/COLOR][/FONT]we need to rank the teams based on all the criteria suggested by mcgonigle, we could set up some sort of Assessment Group that is Independent to do the ranking, that way nothing could possibly go wrong.
    That was just a sample, lots of criteria missing there. Best crisp selection, most visits by Tom.... it can go on and on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Im not sure if I get your point. The FAI wont push tickets because they think the atmosphere in the current stadium isnt as good as the old ground? I dont see why that would stop them and surely the effort should be to improve the atmosphere in a stadium that should be noisier that the old open stadium. Ive been in the old Lansdowne Road with the atmosphere like a morgue, same as Croke Park which I think is overated for atmosphere in general. The atmosphere at Irish internationals hasnt always been great even when the team were doing well, especially not for afternoon kick offs probably due to less pre match pints lol. I hate the lack of imagination with COYBIG, FoA, and Stand up for the BiG, over and over and over. Club fans usually have a batch of chants that if embraced better could be transferred to the international games. I think this was tried with a LoI singing section in the Aviva?
    yeah correct. on off the ball they were talking about the lack of atmosphere at Ireland games now and it was way better in the old days. Maybe I am wrong in what I have said but do the FAI regret upgrading the Aviva Stadium?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    yeah correct. on off the ball they were talking about the lack of atmosphere at Ireland games now and it was way better in the old days. Maybe I am wrong in what I have said but do the FAI regret upgrading the Aviva Stadium?
    They didn't really get a say in the matter, it was happening no matter what, only decision was how involved they'd be. The atmosphere problems are either down to the team or easily enough fixed but won't be

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12TB5EApfKQ

    Not a happy man. Granted it's just after the game and emotions are probably high, what's the consensus Cork fans? I think he's a bit harsh on some players

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgonigle View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12TB5EApfKQ

    Not a happy man. Granted it's just after the game and emotions are probably high, what's the consensus Cork fans? I think he's a bit harsh on some players
    It is the aftermath of a defeat, so I expect some of his opinions to be expressed more strongly than in the cold light of day.

    However, that is as good of a forensic analysis of a team by a supporter that I have ever heard.

    It is a little unfair of the YouTube channel to call it a rant. He was calm and very eloquent.

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