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    I thought there was a rule that nobody under 16 could play in a senior game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Happy to see harps win on bray. All this BS about the great new start in bray is a load of nonsense. The club has been kept alive just so joeys can keep sending 15 year olds over to UK academy's on buttons. They don't even have an embarrassment threshold about it,, they were tweeting congratulations to kids in academy's in the UK today as if it was something to be proud of.
    Sending kids to the UK on buttons = bad for kids

    Sending kids to the UK on decent transfers fees = great for kids

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    Number 1 ...no deal done.
    Number 2.. because he is on professional contract with rovers he can only be signed as a pro by EPL teams on a proper professional contract.
    Not the 150 a week and thrown back that joeys get for their kids. Honestly EL P u have no idea of the damage being done by joeys, Kevin's etc to numourous young kids .

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    I can't recall being so pi$$ed off after a 3-0 win.

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    Slavetrade Rovers has a nice ring to it eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    Sending kids to the UK on buttons = bad for kids

    Sending kids to the UK on decent transfers fees = great for kids
    Wouldn't expect anything better from you. Sending kids on proper contracts when they have finished their education is better then what the ddsl clubs have been doing. Take off your blinkers.
    Man up and admit your wrong...........never going to happen ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Wouldn't expect anything better from you. Sending kids on proper contracts when they have finished their education is better then what the ddsl clubs have been doing. Take off your blinkers.
    Man up and admit your wrong...........never going to happen ...
    Maybe I misunderstood you, when you complained about kids going to the UK for buttons - is it the size of the fee the selling club gets that makes it okay, or is it simply about making sure that the kids have finished their Leaving Cert and have a decent contract?

    Are there any circumstances where you think that clubs should waive a fee or compensation to allow the kids' parents/agents negotiate better terms for themselves?

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    5-0 win for Pats tonight but still somehow managed to be look weak in front of goal again. We're a quality striker away from being capable of a lot more (then again who isn't).

    Highlight has to be us winning a penalty, Conor Clifford asking Killian Brennan's permission to take it, only to find Ian Turner stood holding the ball at the penalty spot when Brennan gave him the go ahead. They have a brief debate and Clifford backs down, only for the fourth official's board to go up for Turner to be subbed off for Conan Byrne, which prompts Clifford to run across and pick the ball up himself, only for Conan to then take it off him and stick it away. Gotta feel for Clifford the poor fella.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    I can't recall being so pi$$ed off after a 3-0 win.
    It was such a flat game, fairly boring at times too, but full credit to Cobh who kept going and good to see the stand clap them off at the end.

    They were actually the better side for the first 15-20 mins, Dundalk were poor in the first half, the passing was shocking.

    Got the job done in the end.
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    Thought Cobh were very good tonight. Great energy and pressing, good organisation, professional attitude. Their subs went through proper drills at half time instead of just pinging long passes around like several Premier Div teams still do (and wonder why Cork and Dundalk are streets ahead). Things may just be going in the right direction

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    Well that's annoying. Needless red from Grace, we had chances but Drogheda deserved winners in the end.

    Armstrong came on as a sub in the Celtic and looked decent. 15 is very young to be playing senior football though. You'd worry he's been pushed too soon.

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    Handy win for UCD in the Bowl against Pike. Only real problem is that Pike weren't really good enough to push us to any real degree, and we've never been good enough at trying to dictate the tempo of the game against teams like that, so it turned out to be a bit of a damp squib of a game

    Conor Davis is one to watch though. Has taken Georgie Kelly's 19 jersey, and is off the mark already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Armstrong came on as a sub in the Celtic and looked decent. 15 is very young to be playing senior football though. You'd worry he's been pushed too soon.
    I can't help but wonder if the project has priority over first team success

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Well that's annoying. Needless red from Grace, we had chances but Drogheda deserved winners in the end.

    Armstrong came on as a sub in the Celtic and looked decent. 15 is very young to be playing senior football though. You'd worry he's been pushed too soon.
    The real concern is why he is being pushed.

    Is it to add to the first team squad or to get him publicity so that English scouts start taking notice?

    What is the Rovers "project"? Is it to turn Rovers into a super schoolboy club and dominate the market of sending young kids over to English clubs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    The real concern is why he is being pushed.

    Is it to add to the first team squad or to get him publicity so that English scouts start taking notice?

    What is the Rovers "project"? Is it to turn Rovers into a super schoolboy club and dominate the market of sending young kids over to English clubs?

    He is either told to play them to publicise the "project" or he is doing what a number of managers do in a crisis to deflect from their performance .."we may have lost but we had only 9 men and a 15 year old kid etc etc"

    If I was a seasoned pro on the bench and am passed over for a 15 year old, I would be rightly ****ed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seand View Post
    Thought Cobh were very good tonight. Great energy and pressing, good organisation, professional attitude. Their subs went through proper drills at half time instead of just pinging long passes around like several Premier Div teams still do (and wonder why Cork and Dundalk are streets ahead). Things may just be going in the right direction
    That's good to hear, to be fair to Hendo he tries to do things the right way, he has two strength and conditioning coaches with the club who are starting to make a difference with the fitness of the players, I also noticed that they have produced a booklet around diet for all players with the club at all age groups.
    If we could have kept the players we lost over the past few seasons, Gary Comerford, Cian Coleman, Matthew Whelan and others we would be breathing down U.C.D's necks right now. The pleasing thing though is that there are players stepping up all the time, young Gordon Walker played in the EA Cup game last Monday at centre half in what must have been only his third or fourth game at senior level.
    I didn't hold out much hope for last night, we were never going to catch Dundalk twice on the spin but I hope they gave a good account of themselves.
    On a side note the Dundalk fans I spoke to after last Monday's game were very magnanimous in defeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comic Book Guy View Post
    That's good to hear, to be fair to Hendo he tries to do things the right way, he has two strength and conditioning coaches with the club who are starting to make a difference with the fitness of the players, I also noticed that they have produced a booklet around diet for all players with the club at all age groups.
    If we could have kept the players we lost over the past few seasons, Gary Comerford, Cian Coleman, Matthew Whelan and others we would be breathing down U.C.D's necks right now. The pleasing thing though is that there are players stepping up all the time, young Gordon Walker played in the EA Cup game last Monday at centre half in what must have been only his third or fourth game at senior level.
    I didn't hold out much hope for last night, we were never going to catch Dundalk twice on the spin but I hope they gave a good account of themselves.
    On a side note the Dundalk fans I spoke to after last Monday's game were very magnanimous in defeat.
    The Cobh players were a credit to themselves, their manager and all involved with the club.

    They came with a good tactical plan, closed down really well and generally worked their socks off. They may not have threatened much, but they certainly made life difficult and constantly forced errors. With the exception of Shane O'Connor, the fitness levels seem very good.

    A little more finesse, cutting edge and experience will take this team a good distance

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    The real concern is why he is being pushed.

    Is it to add to the first team squad or to get him publicity so that English scouts start taking notice?

    What is the Rovers "project"? Is it to turn Rovers into a super schoolboy club and dominate the market of sending young kids over to English clubs?
    Same objective as every other clubs underage teams. Get the best players in and bring them through into the first team. Some of the best will go to play at a higher level. Given the national underage leagues links with the loi clubs this should start to happen at more clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Same objective as every other clubs underage teams. Get the best players in and bring them through into the first team. Some of the best will go to play at a higher level. Given the national underage leagues links with the loi clubs this should start to happen at more clubs.
    You can stick your head in the sand if you wish, but three successive posts have raised similar questions about priorities and motives - triggered by Rovers playing a 15 year old in a cup competition that is their last chance of a trophy.

    Of course anyone involved in developing players wants them to reach their potential. Does this take priority and precedence over trying to achieve first team success at Shamrock Rovers ?

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    I don't think 15 year olds should be allowed to play senior football. The physical risks and the mental pressure at that age, cannot be in the best interest of the kids.

    In this particular case, a 15 year old was sent on when one of the biggest teams in the country was 1 down in the cup to a first division side. Off you go lad, no pressure there....

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