Exactly.
Also - as the FAI get a cut of gate receipts, why would they agree with a figure which wasn't accurate ? They're not exactly known for not wanting money, now, are they ?
If you're going to disagree with the attendance figure given by the home side and agreed by the FAI, then have your own people on the turnstiles to disprove it. If you're not prepared to do that, then don't cry about it with your own made up numbers.
Nerds.
As regards Sheppard.
Some of the abuse he has received from some Bohs fans over the past few weeks has been vile to say the least & I for one don't blame him one bit for celebrating like he did when he scored.
If you can't take it then don't give it out.
Admission to the ground is by ticket only & all tickets have to be accounted for whether sold or not.
All tickets coming into Turners Cross are scanned no matter what their source.
No cash is taken at the turnstiles.EVER.
There is a ticket hut on the Curragh Road where tickets can be bought as well as various premises around the city.
Long gone are the days when you could roll up & just put your money on the turnstile as you went in.
I'm not sure what its like at other LOI grounds but if you leave Turners Cross during a game you are not allowed in again.
Some of our fans had a problem with that as they couldn't go out for a half time pint
A few of us are going to the Cross for many years & at this stage we have a good idea of what the attendance might be.
I thought it was just about over 4k myself as there were several gaps around the ground so I wasn't far out.
If 4119 tickets were scanned last night then that was the attendance.
I actually thought there might be more at the game but then we had just over 3k at last years semi final against Limerick so maybe not such a surprise.
The absence of Dan Casey at CB would have hampered Bohs a lot. He's their best player in the air by some distance. He's a v old school CB actually, thrives on winning big headers and the physical stuff.
Dan Kelly is a massive outlet for Bohs too (as proved by their better form since he arrived) so without him they looked blunt.
I was down to the Dundalk game on 21/09 and the crowd given was around 4,200. I only remember as I noted after all the fuss, it was only 100 more than the last game between the 2 at oriel park.
Last night looked to be a good bit more than the Dundalk game, I would have estimated having been there, around 4,500 min.
Decent second half by Bohs and what a strike for their goal, but Cork were def better on the night and were decent in the first half. They seem to play better without McCormack, always thinks he slows them down.
So will we see a goal for the first time in 90 mins in the cup final between the two ? Almost beside myself with the excitement already................
#DundalkFC - First Irish club to win an away game in Europe (1963), first Irish club to win points in a group stage in Europe (2016).
The Dundalk figure was inflated by non attending season ticket holders. We've been calling it out on our forum all year. We've clearly made a change to the way we announce figures this year. Probably for sponsorship reasons. Cup attendances don't have to consider ST holders so wouldn't be inflated.
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Sheppard is a good player and a great servant to Cork but he gets a serious free pass from Cork fans. He shopped himself to Cork's main rivals and requested that nothing be said about it until he had left. I would not be too accepting of that from a Dundalk player. That his plans were outed and he hence changed is mind and the controversy at the time seems to have distracted away from him being quite underhanded about a move. If he was a chap of complete integrity he'd have told his manager that he was faced with a family issue and may have to move clubs. The opporrtunity to point at Kenny's poor attempt at mind games has disguised Sheppard's role in that affair. Not positive trait for a clubs player to have.
Think Sheppard is one of those players that must play at the edge of his wits to get the best out of himself and sometimes it spills over. There's definitely been times where he's given the big one to Pats supporters after games where I've been confused because (as far as I could tell, anyway) he hadn't really gotten any abuse to justify it, considering Cork usually have a couple of ex-Pats lads in there to take the brunt of it instead of him. Seems to be a bit of a common theme with him, though I am of the mind that football fans who get up in arms about this sort of thing are being a bit soft. Bohs supporters that dished out insults to him all week don't really have grounds to complain that they got a bit back, comes with the territory.
I wanted Bohs to win because I support them. That's my interesting/controversial observation.
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You've got a sum wrong there btw - 96.8%*93.3%*85.6% = 77.3%, not 80.0%
Means your chances of getting to the final are 51.6%, not 57.1%, and your chances of getting to four finals in a row are 7.1%, not 10.7% (which ties in with my figures then)
I think there is a need to make it. It shows how much of the effect is down to how well the two teams are actually playing. So if, as I noted, it's 80% certain that both Dundalk and Cork to win each match - which is very short odds (1/4), even with no draw option - then the vaguely plausible odds of 7.1% become the tiny odds of 0.03%.
In that case, the real surprise is not that they've not met in the last four years, it's that no-one has beaten them.
That's all good know - but in no way does any of it rule out a visiting club having people on the turnstiles counting fans who go in if they fear getting diddled on the gate receipts. Whether they're entering via cash, ticket or magic beans, you still count the people - not the payment method.
Again - the fact the FAI had no problem with the figure completely undermines any claims that it is widely inaccurate IMO.
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