FAI Cup 2018

**dundalkfc10** · 02/10/2018, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by The Donie Forde

Amazingly enough, there's been no online poll about the decision not to red card Cleary for his wild tackle against UCD while the game was still scoreless...

Because everyone agress it was a red card bar the ref.

Whats not amazing is your bitterness towards Dundalk

**marinobohs** · 02/10/2018, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by micls

You can say 'clearly no foul' but 50% of people disagree with you. The fact that everyone seems to be adamant it either was 100% a penalty or 100% not a penalty is ridiculous.

Leahy went into a tackle high with his studs up. Surely anyone can accept that an official could consider that careless. Mccarthy was also a high leg, but no studs up and stayed on his feet.

As I said, I probably wouldn't have given it, but I completely understand the argument that it is a penalty and by the description of a careless challenge as per the rules its certainly a decision to be made. It's not ridiculous, it's not 'clearly' anything. If it were, the debate wouldn't still be going on.

1700 people voted in the soccer Republic vote. It was exactly 50/50. Former players are split down the middle.

It's obviously not 'clearly' anything!

Sorry most people accept it was not a penalty - that is why we are still talking about it days later (apparently even you wouldn't give it). Leahy cleared the ball - cleanly. McCarthy hit him. How can that be a foul ? Unless a free out. Is a defender obliged to get out of his way ? Either both were dangerous or neither were (in which case it is not a penalty) so the careless argument cuts both ways.

As for 'conflicting views' it was embarrassing that McCarthy claimed to have got the first touch. Sheppard trying to get Leahy sent off was, sadly, pretty much par for the course.

Anyway, over and done with now so we move on. Hopefully in the replay Bohs can finish the job that Rogers prevented us completing on Sunday.

**Pablo Escobar** · 02/10/2018, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Anyway, over and done with now so we move on.

I'd really like to believe that

**The Donie Forde** · 02/10/2018, 10:35 AM

There's a foul by Morrissey on Lunney around 49/50 minutes, almost a carbon copy of Leahy/McCarthy. Every Bohs fan screamed for it, a free was given. It was a fair call. Not even sure Morrissey even made contact but he was high. Lunney was not injured.
You can't have it both ways, Bohs fans. Leahy was reckless. Brave to go for it but it was reckless.

**micls** · 02/10/2018, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Sorry most people accept it was not a penalty - that is why we are still talking about it days later (apparently even you wouldn't give it

No, they don't. The polls done are split right down the middle. Surely you can understand that your 'most' is coloured by interacting more with Bohs fans. For me 'most' are saying it was a penalty.

It's a contentious decision, sure. But the idea that the officials screwed over Bohs is nonsense. It was a tough call, without the benefit of multiple replays. Some people agree with it, others don't. It's far from robbery.

**marinobohs** · 02/10/2018, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by micls

No, they don't. The polls done are split right down the middle. Surely you can understand that your 'most' is coloured by interacting more with Bohs fans. For me 'most' are saying it was a penalty.

It's a contentious decision, sure. But the idea that the officials screwed over Bohs is nonsense. It was a tough call, without the benefit of multiple replays. Some people agree with it, others don't. It's far from robbery.

Don't think many would argue that without the 'dodgy' penalty Cork would not have got a draw. Therefore clearly the refs decision determined the outcome - a decision you would not have given (according to yourself !).

**marinobohs** · 02/10/2018, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by The Donie Forde

There's a foul by Morrissey on Lunney around 49/50 minutes, almost a carbon copy of Leahy/McCarthy. Every Bohs fan screamed for it, a free was given. It was a fair call. Not even sure Morrissey even made contact but he was high. Lunney was not injured.
You can't have it both ways, Bohs fans. Leahy was reckless. Brave to go for it but it was reckless.

there was a blatant penalty for a foul in the cork box right on FT which Rogers ignored, if you want to analyse every incident then fine. BOTH players (Leahy and McCarthy had their foot up - either both are reckless or neither are. What part of that can you not get ?

**micls** · 02/10/2018, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

there was a blatant penalty for a foul in the cork box right on FT which Rogers ignored, if you want to analyse every incident then fine. BOTH players (Leahy and McCarthy had their foot up - either both are reckless or neither are. What part of that can you not get ?

He disagreement isnt that one didn't have their feet high. The difference is that leahy had studs up and dived in. That's what made the difference. That's what likely made them think Leahy was being careless.

Of course the refs decision decided the outcome. But that doesn't make it disgraceful or robbed. Refs decisions regularly impact outcomes. It was a decision that could have gone either way. It went against ye. That's frustrating. But it's also football. It wasnt clearcut either way.

**micls** · 02/10/2018, 11:38 AM

But you're right, this will just go round and round in circles, as it has on twitter. It is what it is.

See you Monday!

**marinobohs** · 02/10/2018, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by micls

But you're right, this will just go round and round in circles, as it has on twitter. It is what it is.

See you Monday!

Anyway, all pretty futile as the only opinion that counts was Rogers (unfortunately).Whatever the outcome Monday lets hope we are talking about a good match and not some controversial ref decision (for a change). Hopefully a decent crowd and a bit of atmosphere. The fact its not on TV might boost the crowd although Monday night is hardly ideal. should be fun !

**micls** · 02/10/2018, 11:55 AM

Yeah, hopeful for a better crowd than last years semi, but who knows on a Monday. How many do you think will travel?

**osarusan** · 02/10/2018, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

BOTH players (Leahy and McCarthy had their foot up - either both are reckless or neither are. What part of that can you not get ?

Seriously, come on FFS. I can understand people not thinking it's a penalty for other reasons, but you cannot just ignore the fact that one went in with studs up and the other didn't. Their actions were not the same in terms of carelessness, so the 'both were careless or neither were careless' is nonsense.

**oriel** · 02/10/2018, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by dundalkfc10

Because everyone agress it was a red card bar the ref.

Whats not amazing is your bitterness towards Dundalk

100% correct, Cleary should have been sent off for that tackle. We should have had a pen after when Gannon was pulled back, but not taking anything away from Cleary, he was damn lucky to have stayed on the park. Madness going in like that, and would have been the first sending off of the year on the pitch I think? (Hoare was sent off in the tunnel after Rovers 1-2 defeat)

**brendy_éire** · 02/10/2018, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by micls

Yeah, hopeful for a better crowd than last years semi, but who knows on a Monday. How many do you think will travel?

They took 300 to the Brandywell for the quarter-final on a Wednesday. Should easily beat on Monday.

**The Donie Forde** · 02/10/2018, 1:21 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

there was a blatant penalty for a foul in the cork box right on FT which Rogers ignored, if you want to analyse every incident then fine. BOTH players (Leahy and McCarthy had their foot up - either both are reckless or neither are. What part of that can you not get ?

I get the rule just fine, bud.
To be honest, you're the one that's actually struggling with it.
But whatever.

**marinobohs** · 02/10/2018, 3:40 PM

Originally Posted by micls

Yeah, hopeful for a better crowd than last years semi, but who knows on a Monday. How many do you think will travel?

would hope we can shift the 500 tickets Cork have given us. Possibly more, difficult to tell at this stage.

**marinobohs** · 02/10/2018, 3:44 PM

Originally Posted by osarusan

Seriously, come on FFS. I can understand people not thinking it's a penalty for other reasons, but you cannot just ignore the fact that one went in with studs up and the other didn't. Their actions were not the same in terms of carelessness, so the 'both were careless or neither were careless' is nonsense.

One player got the ball - Leahy, one player kicked an opponent - McCarthy (unintentionally) presumably you can ignore that ? Anyway, as has been said, time to move on, most LOI games are a litany of poor decisions just unfortunate when they are so influential to the outcome. Hopefully there will be a clearer outcome to the replay.

**Philosophizer** · 02/10/2018, 4:22 PM

Big blow to Bohs chances of making the final now - https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-37377196.html

Surprised Kelly has 5 cards, doesn't seem like the type of player who makes a lot of challenges...

**micls** · 02/10/2018, 5:46 PM

It helps us, but I'm not a fan of yellows that we're gotten in the league meaning someone misses a cup semi. It's very harsh. I remember us being absolutely gutted for Neal Horgan who missed the 2007 final due to getting 5 yellows all season.

No one should miss a cup semi because of the timing of the semi. Let them serve it in the league.

**Dalymountrower** · 02/10/2018, 6:45 PM

Originally Posted by micls

It helps us, but I'm not a fan of yellows that we're gotten in the league meaning someone misses a cup semi. It's very harsh. I remember us being absolutely gutted for Neal Horgan who missed the 2007 final due to getting 5 yellows all season.

No one should miss a cup semi because of the timing of the semi. Let them serve it in the league.

Big losses, Stokes/Danny Grant in and Cornwall for Casey.
Hopefully the Under 19's aren't too wrecked after the Danish away game tomorrow night, would love to see Ali Reghba and Promise Omocheo(?) being given a run in Cork for the semi.