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    Quote Originally Posted by bohsmug View Post
    Not that it's the most pressing of sporting matters but if your family insists on a word being pronounced a certain way, why don't they just spell it correctly?
    Exactly. Stick an extra O in there if you want people to pronounce it as Hooban. otherwise, it comes across as kind of snobby and elitist; " It's ACTUALLY hooban, old chap". Harry Kane is Harry Kane, not Harry Keane, for example.

    Was Mick Doohan ever pronounced as Mick Doehan, out of curiosity?

    By the way, he can, of course, call himself whatever he likes, and it takes nothing away from how good a player he is. Just seems odd that there's such a precise way of pronouncing it that goes against how it spells, completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorribsideSteve View Post
    Exactly. Stick an extra O in there if you want people to pronounce it as Hooban. otherwise, it comes across as kind of snobby and elitist; " It's ACTUALLY hooban, old chap". Harry Kane is Harry Kane, not Harry Keane, for example.

    Was Mick Doohan ever pronounced as Mick Doehan, out of curiosity?

    By the way, he can, of course, call himself whatever he likes, and it takes nothing away from how good a player he is. Just seems odd that there's such a precise way of pronouncing it that goes against how it spells, completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    Patrick Hoban is quite fussy with his name.

    He doesn't like being called Pat either. Its either Patrick or Pa.
    Pat Hoe-ban it is then

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    Quote Originally Posted by CorribsideSteve View Post
    Just seems odd that there's such a precise way of pronouncing it that goes against how it spells, completely.
    English isn't a phonetic language so there will always be tonnes of words that are pronounced different to their spelling.

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    Seems pretty extraordinary that it's being suggested that a person should change the spelling of his name to match the pronunciation. Guess I better change my given name to Shaun. I'll let Pawrick know the new orthodoxly

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    It's been suggested, but not demanded. Valid points raised that English is not very phonetical, the British for example always tend to read the surname Moran as Mow-Ran. Yes, I surmised it as sounding a bit snobbish how he wishes to pronounce it, but not that the player himself was. But it was just an observation and not a slur on the man's good character.
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    It's likely to do with changing pronunciation over time.

    It only looks like it's spelled wrong now, but that's because how we pronounce a single "o" in that context has changed.

    Are his descendants to change the spelling every time accents evolve?

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    Gavan Holohan: pronounces his surname as Hoolahan.
    Nobody got their knickers on backwards over that. What's so astonishing about saying Hooban as the Dundork striker's name?
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    Strangest one Iíve come across is how Dundalk people pronounce Mathews they say Matt-it-is

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    Sligo people have a weird thing where they put an s onto people's surnames.
    Example:
    Liam Martins
    Joe Kendricks (maybe Jimi Hendrix influenced)
    Achille Campions
    Pascal Milliens
    Ive actually heard people say Dennis Bergkamps as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Strangest one I’ve come across is how Dundalk people pronounce Mathews they say Matt-it-is
    I know a chap called Matthew Matthews.

    He has no friends

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    I hate when people don't pronounce a surname the same way I do...

    In fairness, it's all about where you're from too. When living in Carlow, I had to get used to Walsh being pronounced 'Welsh' and Behan being pronounced 'Bay-an'. Thankfully, I had sense to move back to Donegal where things are pronounced properly.
    Surely you mean Carla?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    I know a chap called Matthew Matthews.

    He has no friends
    There is or was a chap in County Longford named Cormac McCormack.
    "He mightn't always be right but he's never wrong"

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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Strangest one Iíve come across is how Dundalk people pronounce Mathews they say Matt-it-is
    That's quality and you are spot on. The daily coach service operator from Dundalk to Dublin 'Matthews Coaches' a lot do call it 'Matt-it-is-ssss' (a good few additional s's)

    I once heard a rte late night sports report calling the German international Lothar Matthias 'Luther Matt-it-isssss'
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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    That's quality and you are spot on. The daily coach service operator from Dundalk to Dublin 'Matthews Coaches' a lot do call it 'Matt-it-is-ssss' (a good few additional s's)

    I once heard a rte late night sports report calling the German international Lothar Matthias 'Luther Matt-it-isssss'
    Haha yeah myself and the missus got it the last day up to Dublin and thatís where I picked up on it. Strange people 😂😂

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    Hoey or Hoee, maybe Hoee is just Dublin but in Dundalk is said like Hoy(hoi).

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    I've heard the great Spanish striker Raul be pronounced as Roy-ool by Trevor Welsh before, he also pronounced Sami Hyypia as Hoopy-yay ( correctly pronounced as Hype-Yeah), so certainly commentators can badly butcher a player's surname, that's partly why I thought who-bun was a strange way to pronounce his name. Good luck to him, may he score many important goals this season.

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    Meelan and Milan is another one that seems interchangeable

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    Quote Originally Posted by bohsmug View Post
    James McLean is another one, and presumably his brother.
    Donít they both publicly spell it as McClean? Only people I see spelling it differently is people online
    Last edited by sulywaterfordfc; 16/03/2018 at 3:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longfordian View Post
    There is or was a chap in County Longford named Cormac McCormack.
    Ex Drogheda player from the 1980s: Fergus Ferguson

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