Hoo....ban or Hoban?

**CorribsideSteve** · 13/03/2018, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by bohsmug

Not that it's the most pressing of sporting matters but if your family insists on a word being pronounced a certain way, why don't they just spell it correctly?

Exactly. Stick an extra O in there if you want people to pronounce it as Hooban. otherwise, it comes across as kind of snobby and elitist; " It's ACTUALLY hooban, old chap". Harry Kane is Harry Kane, not Harry Keane, for example.

Was Mick Doohan ever pronounced as Mick Doehan, out of curiosity?

By the way, he can, of course, call himself whatever he likes, and it takes nothing away from how good a player he is. Just seems odd that there's such a precise way of pronouncing it that goes against how it spells, completely.

**Ezeikial** · 13/03/2018, 1:03 PM

Originally Posted by CorribsideSteve

Exactly. Stick an extra O in there if you want people to pronounce it as Hooban. otherwise, it comes across as kind of snobby and elitist; " It's ACTUALLY hooban, old chap". Harry Kane is Harry Kane, not Harry Keane, for example.

Was Mick Doohan ever pronounced as Mick Doehan, out of curiosity?

By the way, he can, of course, call himself whatever he likes, and it takes nothing away from how good a player he is. Just seems odd that there's such a precise way of pronouncing it that goes against how it spells, completely.

Iarfhlaith O'Shaughnessy would be in big trouble with you

**bluemovie** · 13/03/2018, 1:37 PM

Originally Posted by White Horse

Patrick Hoban is quite fussy with his name.

He doesn't like being called Pat either. Its either Patrick or Pa.

Pat Hoe-ban it is then

**Philosophizer** · 13/03/2018, 1:42 PM

Originally Posted by CorribsideSteve

Just seems odd that there's such a precise way of pronouncing it that goes against how it spells, completely.

English isn't a phonetic language so there will always be tonnes of words that are pronounced different to their spelling.

**seand** · 13/03/2018, 2:36 PM

Seems pretty extraordinary that it's being suggested that a person should change the spelling of his name to match the pronunciation. Guess I better change my given name to Shaun. I'll let Pawrick know the new orthodoxly

**CorribsideSteve** · 13/03/2018, 5:02 PM

It's been suggested, but not demanded. Valid points raised that English is not very phonetical, the British for example always tend to read the surname Moran as Mow-Ran. Yes, I surmised it as sounding a bit snobbish how he wishes to pronounce it, but not that the player himself was. But it was just an observation and not a slur on the man's good character.

**pineapple stu** · 13/03/2018, 5:49 PM

It's likely to do with changing pronunciation over time.

It only looks like it's spelled wrong now, but that's because how we pronounce a single "o" in that context has changed.

Are his descendants to change the spelling every time accents evolve?

**The Donie Forde** · 13/03/2018, 5:55 PM

Gavan Holohan: pronounces his surname as Hoolahan.
Nobody got their knickers on backwards over that. What's so astonishing about saying Hooban as the Dundork striker's name?

**outspoken** · 13/03/2018, 7:46 PM

Strangest one I’ve come across is how Dundalk people pronounce Mathews they say Matt-it-is

**dong** · 13/03/2018, 8:52 PM

Sligo people have a weird thing where they put an s onto people's surnames.
Example:
Liam Martins
Joe Kendricks (maybe Jimi Hendrix influenced)
Achille Campions
Pascal Milliens
Ive actually heard people say Dennis Bergkamps as well.

**Ezeikial** · 13/03/2018, 9:44 PM

Originally Posted by outspoken

Strangest one I’ve come across is how Dundalk people pronounce Mathews they say Matt-it-is

I know a chap called Matthew Matthews.

He has no friends

**thebronze14** · 13/03/2018, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

I hate when people don't pronounce a surname the same way I do...

In fairness, it's all about where you're from too. When living in Carlow, I had to get used to Walsh being pronounced 'Welsh' and Behan being pronounced 'Bay-an'. Thankfully, I had sense to move back to Donegal where things are pronounced properly.

Surely you mean Carla?

**Longfordian** · 14/03/2018, 8:13 PM

Originally Posted by Ezeikial

I know a chap called Matthew Matthews.

He has no friends

There is or was a chap in County Longford named Cormac McCormack.

**oriel** · 14/03/2018, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by outspoken

Strangest one I’ve come across is how Dundalk people pronounce Mathews they say Matt-it-is

That's quality and you are spot on. The daily coach service operator from Dundalk to Dublin 'Matthews Coaches' a lot do call it 'Matt-it-is-ssss' (a good few additional s's)

I once heard a rte late night sports report calling the German international Lothar Matthias 'Luther Matt-it-isssss'

**outspoken** · 15/03/2018, 5:08 AM

Originally Posted by oriel

That's quality and you are spot on. The daily coach service operator from Dundalk to Dublin 'Matthews Coaches' a lot do call it 'Matt-it-is-ssss' (a good few additional s's)

I once heard a rte late night sports report calling the German international Lothar Matthias 'Luther Matt-it-isssss'

Haha yeah myself and the missus got it the last day up to Dublin and that’s where I picked up on it. Strange people 😂😂

**Nesta99** · 15/03/2018, 10:23 AM

Hoey or Hoee, maybe Hoee is just Dublin but in Dundalk is said like Hoy(hoi).

**CorribsideSteve** · 15/03/2018, 1:09 PM

I've heard the great Spanish striker Raul be pronounced as Roy-ool by Trevor Welsh before, he also pronounced Sami Hyypia as Hoopy-yay ( correctly pronounced as Hype-Yeah), so certainly commentators can badly butcher a player's surname, that's partly why I thought who-bun was a strange way to pronounce his name. Good luck to him, may he score many important goals this season.