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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Take your long term view and sense of perspective and GTFO! It has no place here or on any other football forum!
    i think thats called irony, shgawa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingswood Rover View Post
    Lots of season ticket holders from various clubs often do not attend games en masse for a variety of reasons, even celtic fans who were seeing a decent team were absent in their droves last season, Arsenal as well. i heard what i heard and i have no reason to disbelieve the people who said it. one of the posters on here made the point about us being essentially a super sized schoolboy club jeez the more i think about this the harder it is to disagree, spend that 400 k on getting us back competitive again in the LOI.
    In my opinion though not thinking the manager is doing a good job is a seriously poor excuse to not go to games and especially to not use a season ticket because if that's the worst thing that happens to your club in football you've been pretty blessed in our league anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingswood Rover View Post
    i think thats called irony, shgawa

    I kinda got that Kingswood hence my reply ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingswood Rover View Post
    agreed but we are not fulfilling our potential with our senior team i am not saying we should be winning the league but with the squad we have being 20 odd points behind again needs addressing and a new manager would the first step imo.
    I'm not happy with where we are either but we've changed managers before and gone nowhere, If we'd lost to Sligo and beaten Bohs we woudl'nt be having this conversation we'd be talking about the good run we are on and hoping it continues.
    I don't think we are that far off with our first 11 the problem is cover, but I guess that's a budget issue.
    If we can win a decent % between now and seasons end i'll be unhappy but hopeful.
    Watts and Manus are outstanding signings we need to sign a couple more and get Clarke back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingswood Rover View Post
    agreed but we are not fulfilling our potential with our senior team i am not saying we should be winning the league but with the squad we have being 20 odd points behind again needs addressing and a new manager would the first step imo.
    Europa League qualification would surely constitute a successful season for a manager who is in the process of team building. Watts and Mannus are significant recent additions with Clarke yet to return for 2019. Add 2 or 3 defenders in the off season and the team would be building nicely to challenge for the top three next season.

    The project also looks like it is starting to work in generating transfer income, even if Aaron Bolger leaves in the close season for minor training compensation fees

    If the Rovers board did not replace Bradley in June at the lowest point of the bad run, it would make little sense in ditching him and starting again with someone else

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    Europa League qualification would surely constitute a successful season for a manager who is in the process of team building. Watts and Mannus are significant recent additions with Clarke yet to return for 2019. Add 2 or 3 defenders in the off season and the team would be building nicely to challenge for the top three next season.

    The project also looks like it is starting to work in generating transfer income, even if Aaron Bolger leaves in the close season for minor training compensation fees

    If the Rovers board did not replace Bradley in June at the lowest point of the bad run, it would make little sense in ditching him and starting again with someone else
    Right can't believe I'm about to say this but I agree with Ezeikial here, except bolger has 2 more years on his deal so he'll need a transfer fee to go anywhere, rest of it is all pretty accurate.

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    I'd call it minimum achievement to qualify for Europe tbh.
    Hopefully transfer fee income this year can fund a couple more players for next season.
    I'd be amazed if Aaron Bolger leaves most of the young lads seem very bought in, bradser gave most of them their chance.
    Dundalk can obviously offer more money but its not about an extra 500 of a grand for kids his age its about getting over to England.
    Looking at Burke and Bazunu if I was him id stay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    Europa League qualification would surely constitute a successful season for a manager who is in the process of team building. Watts and Mannus are significant recent additions with Clarke yet to return for 2019. Add 2 or 3 defenders in the off season and the team would be building nicely to challenge for the top three next season.

    The project also looks like it is starting to work in generating transfer income, even if Aaron Bolger leaves in the close season for minor training compensation fees

    If the Rovers board did not replace Bradley in June at the lowest point of the bad run, it would make little sense in ditching him and starting again with someone else
    Hes contracted for two more years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asterix View Post
    Hes contracted for two more years.
    I thought it was up at the end of the season. However, Rovers fans should know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    I thought it was up at the end of the season. However, Rovers fans should know.
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    1823 Dundalk v Harps which was a bit disappointing considering the discounted tix on offer
    Bout 70 in from Harps i'd guess

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    Disappointing night all round really. Expected a lot more Harps traveling but many saving up work hours for playoffs it seems.
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    1,016 at the cross. That 16 was around the amount of maynooth fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado View Post
    2657 official for Dundalk v Shams
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    No tax impact, only Derry are liable for VAT on gate receipts in the LOI. I was in the stand (first half) then the uncovered open seating area (town side) for the second, I couldn’t believe the crowd there, as you can’t fully see it from the stand.

    There was def more there last night than the Bohs game (just over 3k), I would say 3,200 would have been more accurate. Not sure reason why 2,657 was reported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    No tax impact, only Derry are liable for VAT on gate receipts in the LOI. I was in the stand (first half) then the uncovered open seating area (town side) for the second, I couldn’t believe the crowd there, as you can’t fully see it from the stand.

    There was def more there last night than the Bohs game (just over 3k), I would say 3,200 would have been more accurate. Not sure reason why 2,657 was reported.

    There may be no VAT impact for clubs in under declaring gates as there is no VAT on tickets but if the club is running at a profit then corporation tax would be payable.
    Its unlikely that DFC will be making a profit this year but it would have been relevant for 2016 or in future years with progression through a few rounds in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    There was def more there last night than the Bohs game (just over 3k), I would say 3,200 would have been more accurate. Not sure reason why 2,657 was reported.
    I've no idea on the motivation for mis-reporting the attendance, but there is no way that the crowd was only 443 above the 2214 quoted for the shared-gate FAI Cup match against Cobh
    Last edited by Ezeikial; 30/08/2018 at 6:02 AM. Reason: changed "below" to "above"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    There may be no VAT impact for clubs in under declaring gates as there is no VAT on tickets but if the club is running at a profit then corporation tax would be payable.
    Its unlikely that DFC will be making a profit this year but it would have been relevant for 2016 or in future years with progression through a few rounds in Europe.
    I'm not saying this necessarily happens, but undeclaring attendances would also give a club more cash I hand - and thereby a means to pay some bills off the books/without paying VAT on them. Attendances don't attract VAT, but a lot of things that clubs have to pay for do.

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