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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    The 8th Amendment. Remember that. If you don't, who could blame you?
    It was designed for you not to be appalled by its language (just like "The Right To Choose" or "Pro Choice" in America).
    Why is this relevant now?
    Well in case it went unnoticed in Ireland this week, the New York State Legislature just passed a bill which allows a baby to be aborted at any time during the pregnancy and even after it has been born (killed in other words).
    Some are calling it the "Fourth Trimester". Others are calling it "Infantacide"

    And those who perform these abortions/killings cannot be prosecuted (and from what I understand they don't even have to be medical professionals - lay people who do it also).
    And the wonderful folks in the New York State Legislature rose in unison to cheer and applaud the passing of the bill.

    Meanwhile down in Virginia, a bill was introduced which the Governor of that state backed. In his description of what would happen in such situations, Governor Northam said that a baby could potentially be born and "made comfortable" while the mother and physician were allowed to have a discussion as to its (the baby's) fate. Meaning that any time after the birth of the baby, the mother could decide whether she wanted the child or not. There was no word as to how long the mother could take to decide (a half hour, an hour, a week a month?) Who knows? One wonders, what would happen if the mother decided after a few months that she really didn't want her newborn? Fortunately that bill was defeated in the Viriniga State Legislature. But it looks like we have reached new lows in our 'handling' of the unborn.

    Why is this important to Ireland? Well you can be guaranteed it is coming to a hospital near you soon.
    Nonsense - from start to finish.
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    That's the greatest load of horsesh!t I've read in quite some time.

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    I take it from your response that you do not believe what I've written?
    I have absolutely no reason to lie - it was all over American TV during the week.
    I won't benefit in way shape or form if you believe me or not.
    But for your own peace of mind, do your research and find out for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    That's the greatest load of horsesh!t I've read in quite some time.
    Don't take my word for it. Maybe you look at the following.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBoT4Xi8QVo

    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    Nonsense - from start to finish.
    Nonsense?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBoT4Xi8QVo
    Last edited by dahamsta; 12/02/2019 at 11:49 AM.

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    Only saw the above post because it was quoted (so they aren't "hidden" like user posts, I'm guessing its impossible to do so). Did a quick Google on this issue. Beyond the (numerous) Conservative media outlets screaming "Infantacide!" I found this pretty good summation from Vox, this fact check from NBC and this counter-point from a Democrat.

    Long story short, the proposed laws are being deliberately misinterpreted and the governor in question has been misquoted/had quotes taken out of context. Shocker, I know. I'm sure the response is going to be something along the lines of "mainstream liberal media". I don't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Only saw the above post because it was quoted (so they aren't "hidden" like user posts, I'm guessing its impossible to do so). Did a quick Google on this issue. Beyond the (numerous) Conservative media outlets screaming "Infantacide!" I found this pretty good summation from Vox, this fact check from NBC and this counter-point from a Democrat.

    Long story short, the proposed laws are being deliberately misinterpreted and the governor in question has been misquoted/had quotes taken out of context. Shocker, I know. I'm sure the response is going to be something along the lines of "mainstream liberal media". I don't care.
    If you think the Governor has been misquoted, or deliberately misinterpreted, go to the man himself. Don't rely on interpretations. Pull up his exact words.
    He said the baby would be made comfortable while the doctor and mother would decide its fate. No misquoting there.

    And I suppose the New York Legislature were also misinterpreted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eminence Grise View Post
    Spring harvest time in the troll farm, lads...
    Probably. I'm just correcting the record if anyone else happens by who doesn't have Mark hidden. I've no interest in engaging with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    I take it from your response that you do not believe what I've written?
    I have absolutely no reason to lie - it was all over American TV during the week.
    I won't benefit in way shape or form if you believe me or not.
    But for your own peace of mind, do your research and find out for yourself.
    See, there's your problem, you're looking at American TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    See, there's your problem, you're looking at American TV.
    There was a dude on Fox news the other day that is a self proclaimed Germ denier - and hasn't washed his hands in years.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...t-pete-hegseth

    Not even a Waterford Wispers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    There was a dude on Fox news the other day that is a self proclaimed Germ denier - and hasn't washed his hands in years.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...t-pete-hegseth

    Not even a Waterford Wispers.
    When people say "evolution is only a theory", I used to respond with "so is the theory of gravity and germ theory. That word does not mean what you seem to think it means".

    Then I hear that people like Flat Earthers and this guy exist, and are utterly beyond the reach of reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    See, there's your problem, you're looking at American TV.
    So if it's on American TV, it's not really believable? Nice, neat and convenient logic that is.

    Anyway, maybe this nurse is talking nonsense about a subject which supposedly doesn't exist, according to some people on here.

    Or maybe the Governor of New York (Cuomo) and the Cardinal of New York (Dolan) took time out of their schedules to talk about a subject which again, supposedly doesn't exist and is just for trolls.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVi0FYPtRQg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-kYAv8qKN0

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    So if it's on American TV, it's not really believable? Nice, neat and convenient logic that is.

    Anyway, maybe this nurse is talking nonsense about a subject which supposedly doesn't exist, according to some people on here.

    Or maybe the Governor of New York (Cuomo) and the Cardinal of New York (Dolan) took time out of their schedules to talk about a subject which again, supposedly doesn't exist and is just for trolls.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVi0FYPtRQg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-kYAv8qKN0
    Dead right Mark - if you can't trust the Catholic Church and Fox News - who can you trust?

    I'm taking a slightly lighter tone now as I can only assume you are on a wind-up.
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    I reckon they actually believe this stuff, and wear a tinfoil-lined watch cap at all times.

    I leave it here for your amusement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    Dead right Mark - if you can't trust the Catholic Church and Fox News - who can you trust?

    I'm taking a slightly lighter tone now as I can only assume you are on a wind-up.
    If you don't trust the Catholic Church that's absolutely your prerogative.
    But you are missing the point here completely.
    I was replying to someone on here earlier who didn't believe the news reports which came out last week about 'fourth-trimester abortions' (essentially after the baby has been born).
    It's just nonsense from start to finish, or bull**** was how they described it.

    My point was that the Governor of New York and the Cardinal of New York took time out of their schedules to speak about a topic which apparently doesn't exist.
    Why would they do that, if the topic doesn't exist?

    So I think if those two prominent people are discussing it (whether you trust the Catholic Church or not) then it actually does exist? Indeed I saw someone speaking about it again yesterday (Sunday).

    And if the topic does exist (ie a bill was introduced and passed in the New York Legislature - connect the dots, that's why the Governor of New York was commenting about it - a seperate bill was introduced in the Virginia Legislature but was not passed) then maybe just maybe Fox News got it right?
    Fair to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    If you don't trust the Catholic Church that's absolutely your prerogative.
    But you are missing the point here completely.
    I was replying to someone on here earlier who didn't believe the news reports which came out last week about 'fourth-trimester abortions' (essentially after the baby has been born).
    It's just nonsense from start to finish, or bull**** was how they described it.

    My point was that the Governor of New York and the Cardinal of New York took time out of their schedules to speak about a topic which apparently doesn't exist.
    Why would they do that, if the topic doesn't exist?

    So I think if those two prominent people are discussing it (whether you trust the Catholic Church or not) then it actually does exist? Indeed I saw someone speaking about it again yesterday (Sunday).

    And if the topic does exist (ie a bill was introduced and passed in the New York Legislature - connect the dots, that's why the Governor of New York was commenting about it - a seperate bill was introduced in the Virginia Legislature but was not passed) then maybe just maybe Fox News got it right?
    Fair to say?
    This post reminds me of that scene in The Waterboy when Adam Sandler fully believes in his own alternate reality while sitting in a psychology class- when questioned by the lecturer about the reasons that Alligators are honorary - he replies - " Alligators are honorary because they got all them teeth - but no toothbrush"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfC4u5GCy3I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid View Post
    This post reminds me of that scene in The Waterboy when Adam Sandler fully believes in his own alternate reality while sitting in a psychology class- when questioned by the lecturer about the reasons that Alligators are honorary - he replies - " Alligators are honorary because they got all them teeth - but no toothbrush"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfC4u5GCy3I
    This post reminds me that there are people out there who watch Adam Sandler movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    This post reminds me that there are people out there who watch Adam Sandler movies.
    Movies? Surely you mean fillums?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    This post reminds me that there are people out there who watch Adam Sandler movies.
    Ouch!
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