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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Ken Early floated this theory earlier today on the Second Captains too. It doesn't make much sense to me though. He cites a convo with the chap that wrote the article for Pundit Arena.
    Just on those quotes, according to Ken they were given in a conversation with the daily papers, which have an embargo over them until the stories are published. That's going to come back to the lads from PunditArena in a big way.
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    I'm not really sure what the manager can do in this situation.
    Grealish had agents in his ear telling him he will earn more money as an England player. He's still waiting on that first cap. He's ten months younger than Raheem Sterling, who has 46 caps. Not to mention Sancho, Foden, etc
    Nobody has any idea why Kelly accepted, and then turned down, the call up.
    Rice seemed to be committed, but then his chairman decided he was going to be England captain, and seems to be holding back Rice's new contract until he declares
    Obafemi accepted the call up, but has had the Nigerian FA approach him to change allegiance.
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    He's in the squad to play. Surely, that means he should be a candidate to play in Denmark.
    The national side isn't a pick and mix job. It is O'Neill's job to not let that happen and make it known that if he is isn't 100% sure about us, he shouldn't be taking up a place. If he called him up with an eye to the future, just play him. Michael O'Neill wouldn't be doodling around on something like this.
    I have sympathy for MON on declan rice, but too often, he creates chaos around him. Going tomorrow is a chore for even dedicated fans. I will be there hoping for even 2 minutes of good football from us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Rice seemed to be committed, but then his chairman decided he was going to be England captain, and seems to be holding back Rice's new contract until he declares
    If the game against Turkey had been a competitive match - I don't think there would have been any hesitation on Rice's part to play in the game.

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    I am completely at a loss to understand what is going on and Davis seems to not understand the value of being chosen to represent your country.

    https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-37530465.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Just on those quotes, according to Ken they were given in a conversation with the daily papers, which have an embargo over them until the stories are published. That's going to come back to the lads from PunditArena in a big way.
    I dont get it? Have the punditArena guys totally made up thier source of info?

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    No, they broke the embargo. That's not going to sit well with the established press corps, and could lead to them being refused press credentials for the next event
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    But it looks like they botched the report too?

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    Ya can see why calling Obafemi into the squad to train / be part of the squad might seem like a good idea at the time

    But in actual practice having a player in the squad that is not willing to play in the games just becomes obvious farce . From now on , if a player accepts a call up then he must be prepared to play in all the games .

    We tried this . It just made the whole thing a farce !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    But it looks like they botched the report too?
    to be honest, I didn't read it. I've heard some stories about PunditArena, and I refuse to give them any traffic

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    Usually embargoes are set by PR firms or representative, not the media - at least as I understand them. They're also entirely voluntary, and no media outlet is under any obligation to respect them. Any PR firm or rep that tries to make life awkward for a journo who does break an embargo is going to get short shrift, and rightly so.
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    They've been respected by the media for as long as I can remember. No paper or journalist will release quotes from the embargoed stories until they are published

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    They've been respected by the media for as long as I can remember. No paper or journalist will release quotes from the embargoed stories until they are published
    Is there a proper journalist or media outlet thats running with something soon?

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    https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-37530498.html

    This is a great interview with Callum Robinson. I posted it here rather than in his own thread, just to illustrate how personal national identity is and why I think we shouldn't judge players who play underage in one country largely for convenience. Robinson played underage for England but always wanted to play for Ireland and bureaucracy got in the way.

    I found it interesting that Alan Browne got involved, but not by contacting the FAI but by contacting a journalist.

    And did anyone read the story this week about a Scots born rugby player who moved south to play for Newcastle, qualified after 3 years of residence to play for England, got called up by Eddie Jones - and I think but must check, even making the subs bench in one game - but never made a senior appearance, and is now back with Scotland? He told Gregor Townsend on his call up that he wasn't really committed to England anyway and always preferred Scotland! What an utter t0sser.

    Anyway, Kelvin Davies at Southampton says Obafemi would be great for us (also today's Indo online).

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    Obafemi commits to Ireland. What in the name of God has MON been talking about these past few days. He is some spoofer.

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    Fair play to him. Welcome Michael!

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    If this is true - MON hung the lad out to dry yesterday.
    A quick search on twitter and the abuse directed towards the lad was ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapAPony View Post
    Obafemi commits to Ireland. What in the name of God has MON been talking about these past few days. He is some spoofer.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/n...nd-and-nigeria
    This is outrageous. Mon has lost control matter how you look at this

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    Could O'Neill have handled this any more clumsily than this ?
    The lad has had to come out with a statement to avoid boos on his debut, for his country.
    Great stuff Martin, work to be proud of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    This is outrageous. Mon has lost control matter how you look at this
    They say in China they have the same word for "crisis and opportunity.... should Mark O'Toole not be involved in the Senoir set up. Assistant Manager or the likes

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