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    Quote Originally Posted by zero View Post
    The ins and outs of Obafemi's decision are one thing, but I certainly don't think we should be capping someone - even in a friendly - who hasn't decided if he wants to play for us.
    I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathalsmart View Post
    Another player that suddenly wants to consider his international future as soon as he has been called up and seen first hand the state of the coaching staff and “football” practiced...surely not much of a coincidence.
    I don’t accept that argument.
    I would train on tarmac if it meant I could pull on the green jersey.
    As would many lads that are in the squad.

    So if someone doesn’t like the training and pulls out, it shows a lack of character. Nobody was giving out about the training or the football when we were doing well.

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    on another note, learn from this mistake MON, send michael OB home and replace him with Aaron Connolly.

    Pride & ego is a killer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    MON: Michael I want to call you up for the NI an Denmark double header. but before I announce it, I want to make sure you are committed to be a rep of Ireland player.
    MOB: No thanks, Im waiting for England as I was raised there and that's where my loyalties are.
    MON: No Problem, goodbye
    I may be wrong but isn't that basically what happen with Liam Kelly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    on another note, learn from this mistake MON, send michael OB home and replace him with Aaron Connolly.

    Pride & ego is a killer
    Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsMiseSean View Post
    I may be wrong but isn't that basically what happen with Liam Kelly?
    Yes, and that was the correct way to handle it

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    Blaming MON for the Grealish/Rice situations is silly imo. He handled both as well as could be expected.

    We've no idea what really happened with Kelly.

    He's made an absolute mess of this Obafemi situation though. I won't blame him for losing the player a such, but it would have been very easy to suss him out beforehand, instead playing out the situation in public the week of the games. This has been pure incompetence on O'Neill's part and he has deservedly ended up with egg on his face. Ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    Blaming MON for the Grealish/Rice situations is silly imo. He handled both as well as could be expected.

    We've no idea what really happened with Kelly.

    He's made an absolute mess of this Obafemi situation though. I won't blame him for losing the player a such, but it would have been very easy to suss him out beforehand, instead playing the out the situation in public the week of the games. This has been pure incompetence on O'Neill's part and he has deservedly ended up with egg on his face. Ridiculous.
    Agreed here, but with 2) caveats
    Kelly pulled out of the Turkey squad so we know he isn't ready to run through a brick wall for us.
    Going forward post "Rice- Gate" he must not continue with the appeasement strategy, it hasn't worked

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    Quote Originally Posted by zero View Post
    The ins and outs of Obafemi's decision are one thing, but I certainly don't think we should be capping someone - even in a friendly - who hasn't decided if he wants to play for us.
    well said. it is embarrassing to be picking players who haven't even committed to us even for this administration this is a new low. By all means let the kid pick but let him come back to us when he has made his mind up.
    international teams shouldn't do test runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixer82 View Post
    I don’t accept that argument.
    I would train on tarmac if it meant I could pull on the green jersey.
    As would many lads that are in the squad.

    So if someone doesn’t like the training and pulls out, it shows a lack of character. Nobody was giving out about the training or the football when we were doing well.
    Well (unless you say otherwise) don’t have the advantage of having 3 other countries to play for...

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    Granted he hasn't much senior experience but I'm sure Adam Connolly would have relished this week training with the seniors. It's a pity lads like him get the kick in the teeth.

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    This is a **** heap of the highest proportions.

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    Hopefully a defeat to the North and a hammering by Denmark are results enough to send MON over the edge...I doubt it though :/

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    Never hope for a defeat against the North!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    Never hope for a defeat against the North!
    Except when you have a parasite that is slowly destroying whats left of this teams soul.

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    Genuinely think that this a new low point of Irish football. To have a manager facilitate a player in the first team squad who is so uncommitted is nothing short of disgraceful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Genuinely think that this a new low point of Irish football. To have a manager facilitate a player in the first team squad who is so uncommitted is nothing short of disgraceful.
    Is Obafemi really uncommitted or is Martin O'Neill the one making this an issue here telling Obafemi that he should take time out to decide? Afterall, there are quotes from Obafemi saying that he was looking forward to going away with Ireland and possibly winning his first cap.

    https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17220973.southampton-striker-wants-first-international-cap
    Last edited by TrapAPony; 14/11/2018 at 7:57 PM.
    "We lost because we didn't win"- Ronaldo

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapAPony View Post
    Is Obafemi really uncommitted or is Martin O'Neill the one creating the problem here telling Obafemi that he should take time out to decide? Afterall, there are quotes from Obafemi saying that he was looking forward to going away with Ireland and possibly winning his first cap.

    https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17220973.southampton-striker-wants-first-international-cap
    Ken Early floated this theory earlier today on the Second Captains too. It doesn't make much sense to me though. He cites a convo with the chap that wrote the article for Pundit Arena.

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    Those quotes are hardly conclusive on committal long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapAPony View Post
    Is Obafemi really uncommitted or is Martin O'Neill the one creating the problem here telling Obafemi that he should take time out to decide? It wouldn't surprise me in the least. Afterall, there are quotes from Obafemi saying that he was looking forward to going away with Ireland and possibly winning his first cap.

    https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/17...medium=twitter
    I wonder is it a case that O'Neill is picking him because he is young just so he can point to the fact that he did call up young players. But because he has zero intention of playing him O'Neill is happy to use the card that Obafemi still has a decision to make so he cant play him.

    Ive got my tinfoil hat firmly on with that theory, but its just so much bullsh1t constantly every time there is an international camp

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