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    Quote Originally Posted by boysingreen View Post
    Don't know much about Denmark. They were seeded, and Eriksen will be the best player on the park, so give them a slight edge on paper. We have the advantage of playing home second. Anyone feel strongly (either way) that this tie is not 50/50?
    On paper, I would have it 65/35 to Denmark with Eriksen accounting for a good portion of the 15 per cent swing. Him aside, I think we are evenly matched.

    Thereafter, it's hard to put weighting on the advantage of playing at home second, MON potentially putting the shackles on Eriksen and our determination.

    I'd probably put it very slightly in the Danes favour and go 52/48 (that sounds awfully contrived) and say that we will need some luck to nick it but there's plenty hope there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    is this really an advantage to us though? first legs are usually cagey enough and if we fail to score away then i fear denmark will score in the 2nd leg leaving us needing at least 2. not sure i can see this happening on our recent home form. think id rather playing at home first where even taking a nil all to denmark would leave us in a decent position given we have scored in all the games against wales, austria and serbia away in our group.
    Historically, I would say it is. Only once in a play off have we qualified after playing at home in the first leg (2002), and in 1997 and 1999 we failed to qualify after a home play off. In 2011 and 2015 we qualified after playing away from home first. There's an argument that the qualifying group for the 1966 world cup was effectively a play off after Syria pulled out, leaving ourselves and Spain as the only teams. Both sides won their home games, leading to a one off game in Paris that Spain won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    is this really an advantage to us though? first legs are usually cagey enough and if we fail to score away then i fear denmark will score in the 2nd leg leaving us needing at least 2. not sure i can see this happening on our recent home form. think id rather playing at home first where even taking a nil all to denmark would leave us in a decent position given we have scored in all the games against wales, austria and serbia away in our group.
    I'd go along with that, the away goals rule is an asset in the second leg as they know how many away goals they need to have more away goals than us.
    Once they have more away goals a draw will win for them.

    We won't know how many away goals they will get in the first leg, basically we need to win 10-1 in the first leg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    I'd go along with that, the away goals rule is an asset in the second leg as they know how many away goals they need to have more away goals than us.
    Once they have more away goals a draw will win for them.

    We won't know how many away goals they will get in the first leg, basically we need to win 10-1 in the first leg.

    The argument can be made though to scrape a 1-0 win away from home and park the bus for 90 minutes in Dublin knowing they'll have to score two, which would be Martin O'Neill in a nutshell really.

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    Despite our recent home/away form, think second leg home is a real psychological advantage, which is particularly meaningful when there isn't much between two teams.

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    Defo prefer away leg second. Wouldn't bother me so much if the away goals did not count in ET but they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    The argument can be made though to scrape a 1-0 win away from home and park the bus for 90 minutes in Dublin knowing they'll have to score two, which would be Martin O'Neill in a nutshell really.
    No they will need to score 1 to level it. Then if they score another we need to score two! Plus if it is 1-1 then it will go to extra time with them
    having the away goals advantage.

    If they keep the first leg 0-0 then a goal for them in the second leg virtually seals it for them. We rarely score more then one goal against decent teams,
    we need a 1-0 win in our away leg. Otherwise we have to park the bus for 120 mins!
    We are better away from home anyway as we can't take the game to the opposition at home.
    It is gonna be tough!

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    How long does it take for a ticket application to be accepted or rejected on the away fai site ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D24Saint View Post
    How long does it take for a ticket application to be accepted or rejected on the away fai site ?
    id say 10 days from today

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    Reading the comments above how we get a goal and/or 0-1 in Denmark is ridiculous talk. O'Neill keeps emphasising keeping the "tie alive" for the home game, which basically means not losing in MON speak. So he is hoping for a 0-0. What people and MON himself seem to forget is our home form is terrible and its our away form that has kept us going - as the home team emphasis on scoring we catch a break. I'd be happy enough us conceding in Denmark so it pushes us to equalise. I could see oneill though keeping it at 1-0 thinking we are ok when we get them home though. I can really see that, which is a big worry. I think either way we have to score in Denmark - we won't keep them scoreless over 180 mins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    We've been through this before, all betting discussions are to be kept in the betting forum
    I very seldom bet but I always think the odds put forward by bookies are interesting if only to see what Ireland's chances of winning a game are (bookies seldom get it wrong etc.).

    Home or away leg first ? I think home leg second is best. If the home crowd is up for it, sometimes no matter how many the side loses by in the first leg, the deficit can be clawed back (I remember a Barcelona game (I appreciate we're not Barca) a season or two ago where they came back was it from 4 down in the first leg?). However, I still wouldn't rate our chances too highly if we lose first leg 1-0 since, Bosnia HG aside, I am struggling to think of a 2-0 home win over any side which wasn't a minnow. Our best hope is 0-0 and 1-0/2-1.

    These play offs are lotteries (sorry, is this mentioning betting ?) and we just have to hope for the breaks, get no one sent off, ride our luck and sneak a goal or two. Great to look forward to but impossible to predict.
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    Anyone know when the squad will be named?
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    I think a 1-1 draw away would be a great result. I'd take it now*

    *Assuming we don't see a Serbia type defensive unit away at home appear.
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    I also fear O'Neill will play for a 0-0 away instead of pushing for what could be a crucial away goal considering a 1-1 in Copenhagen and a 0-0 in Dublin would take us through.

    Quote Originally Posted by backstothewall View Post
    Anyone know when the squad will be named?
    It's usually a fortnight or so in advance, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by backstothewall View Post
    Anyone know when the squad will be named?
    Thursday at 1pm

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    I really worry it is going to be 1-0 Denmark in the first game and then 0-0 at home.

    When do they announce which officiating crew it is going to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    I think a 1-1 draw away would be a great result. I'd take it now*

    *Assuming we don't see a Serbia type defensive unit away at home appear.
    I'd have to agree with you here Paul.
    It might have been better if we had the home leg first. Get a MON special 0-0 at home and then take the shackles off in Copenhagen. Not to be though.

    I'm guessing you're travelling over?

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    Yes I am, are you? My Sidekick is having his baby's christening the same day of the away leg - very bad planning. But he wont be making as many away games now. We'll both be in Dublin though if you are up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    Yes I am, are you? My Sidekick is having his baby's christening the same day of the away leg - very bad planning. But he wont be making as many away games now. We'll both be in Dublin though if you are up.
    Yeah, I'm going over matchday morning. I'll give you a shout when I land.
    That's poor form by the sidekick, thought he'd know better!!

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    Squad to be named tomorrow, according to the42.ie: http://www.the42.ie/callum-odowda-br...62912-Oct2017/
    Martin O’Neill names his squad for the World Cup play-off with Denmark tomorrow and O’Dowda is certain to be in it, having made his first competitive start in the recent win over Moldova.
    Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else though

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    Just seen the squad announcement mentioned on rte.ie
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