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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    Did you actually meet their said criteria John?

    Loads picked up tickets in wales as well granted we had more tickets though, but we had almost 2/3s more fans.

    I think they've done alright this time the FAI. Compared to Scotland certainly so, but I just got on with it when I didn't get a ticket. Everyone nowadays has an over-inflated self importance.

    One thing I know of though is the supporters club are well looked after regardless of general previous attendance. It's all around membership as opposed to games attended. It's a tricky one.
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    Last time I had to go in the away end was Stuttgart. Any chance the Danes will refuse admission? I suppose I could put a big red coat on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakermaker1982 View Post
    Last time I had to go in the away end was Stuttgart. Any chance the Danes will refuse admission? I suppose I could put a big red coat on.
    apparently they refused entry to polish fans in the recent qualifiers. However, I cant imagine the poles left their many flares at home that night so that might have been the deciding factor

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    Loads picked up tickets in wales as well granted we had more tickets though, but we had almost 2/3s more fans.
    Picked up home tickets or FAI/away-end tickets?

    I think they've done alright this time the FAI. Compared to Scotland certainly so, but I just got on with it when I didn't get a ticket. Everyone nowadays has an over-inflated self importance.

    One thing I know of though is the supporters club are well looked after regardless of general previous attendance. It's all around membership as opposed to games attended. It's a tricky one.
    Personally, I had no expectation of getting a ticket direct through the FAI and I have no complaint over being rejected, but I think most supporters who have been voicing dissatisfaction with the allocation process are just asking for fairness (non-arbitrariness) and transparency. I think their complaints are very reasonable. All our neighbouring associations manage ticketing matters in an open, transparent and objective manner, as far as I know, but the FAI don't, presumably because having or maintaining control and influence over who does and doesn't get a ticket (rather than leaving allocation to an objective system) equates to political and bargaining power when it comes to winning support and votes.

    Emmet Malone wrote a piece on supporter frustrations here: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...lash-1.3277027

    Quote Originally Posted by Emmet Malone
    There was anger among some of those who missed out this time that so many tickets are swallowed up by members of the “football family”, a catchall term generally taken to describe officials from clubs and league who are subject to no attendance requirements, as well as premium tickets holders, sponsors, FAI board members and other senior officials. Fifteen percent of tickets go to Abbey Travel who bundle them into packages.

    The association said on Wednesday night that the most dedicated fans had been looked after but that, given the importance of the game and limited supply due to the relatively small size of the stadium, it was never going to be possible to meet demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    apparently they refused entry to polish fans in the recent qualifiers. However, I cant imagine the poles left their many flares at home that night so that might have been the deciding factor
    Myself and my brother got two tickets for D3, which is the home section but as close to sections D1 and D2 (the official away section) as we can get.



    I'm not sure where the entrance for sections D1, D2 and D3 are though. Is there just one general entrance for all of them? If segregation is to be enforced, you'd expect a separate entrance for D3.

    The tickets we have state "Supporters of hometeam only" and also feature the following warning:

    PLEASE NOTE: Tickets to anything else than the away section on the stadium are reserved for fans of the Danish national team. People showing support for the visiting team through any kind of apparel will therefore be refused entrance to the match. In addition to that, verbal support to the visiting team from people outside the away section, will result in expulsion if considered a safety-related necessity.

    ALSO NOTE: Fans of the Irish national team cannot buy tickets through the Danish Football Association (DBU). We reserve the right to cancel the tickets if this rule is not complied with. Fans of the Irish national team must buy their tickets through the Football Association of Ireland.


    It's ominous, but you'd hope that's the standard sort of thing they'd put on tickets to dissuade opposition fans from purchasing home tickets whilst not strictly enforcing it on the night. The SFA were fine with Irish fans in the home section in Celtic Park after prior warnings. Did many Irish get into the home section in Cardiff?

    Ideally, I'd still want to be in either D1 or D2, so would sell on the tickets we have if away-end tickets pop up in the mean time.

    I was just watching this highlights video of the Denmark-Poland game in the Parken Stadium to get a sense of who was where:



    Sections D1 and most of D2 (behind the right goal) were obviously officially reserved for Poland fans, but I note that section D3 is half empty. Is this because the game didn't sell out or is it because a lot of Polish fans bought tickets for here but were refused entry? Some Polish fans clearly made their way into D3 regardless, as you can see that a significant number of fans in there show no response or celebration when Denmark score. In fact, some openly put their head in their hands or wave their arms in annoyance at conceding. I can only assume they're Poles. They're wearing scarves/colours too. If it is true that Poles were turned away from the home section on the night, maybe it was due to having threatened violence rather than because they were wearing Polish colours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    All our neighbouring associations manage ticketing matters in an open, transparent and objective manner, as far as I know
    The IFA's system is neither open nor transparent. Put simply, they don't know which individuals have attended particular games. This is because tickets for away matches are largely distributed to 'lead block bookers' (effectively, mini supporters' clubs) with only the lead individual names and addresses recorded. So because of this lack of data, distribution is arbitrary if not subjective.

    I'd say both set-ups would benefit from registering supporters individually. The IFA don't through a mix of laziness, administrative incompetence and I'll admit some cunning (in that they know there are many supporters clubs who are content at present).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gather round View Post
    The IFA's system is neither open nor transparent. Put simply, they don't know which individuals have attended particular games. This is because tickets for away matches are largely distributed to 'lead block bookers' (effectively, mini supporters' clubs) with only the lead individual names and addresses recorded. So because of this lack of data, distribution is arbitrary if not subjective.

    I'd say both set-ups would benefit from registering supporters individually. The IFA don't through a mix of laziness, administrative incompetence and I'll admit some cunning (in that they know there are many supporters clubs who are content at present).
    I see. For some reason, I thought the IFA operated differently. The SFA and FAW operate points-based systems though, don't they? Not one hundred per cent certain about the FA.

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    Do you guys still like going to events as opposed to watching in a pub or with friends? I can't stand actually going anymore. Lines, rude people, security, traffic, crazy prices, etc...Much rather have a good group over make good food and have a controlled atmosphere...Or maybe I'm just getting old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisLetang View Post
    Do you guys still like going to events as opposed to watching in a pub or with friends? I can't stand actually going anymore. Lines, rude people, security, traffic, crazy prices, etc...Much rather have a good group over make good food and have a controlled atmosphere...Or maybe I'm just getting old.
    Yes, we go to support the team.
    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    Did you actually meet their said criteria John?
    I just about met the criteria, but there's a little more to it. I'll explain over your round in Copenhagen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    Yes, we go to support the team.
    I know the diehards do. There is a funny GIF of a guy in the front row of the Dodgers game at the World Series the other night watching the last batter with everyone going crazy and he is just all about his Fro-Yo. So some people go to events just to go. Surely you've heard of corporate seats. I don't think you need to go to support a team, per se, or that everyone there is there to support a team, per se.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    Yes, we go to support the team.
    I go because I enjoy it. I pick and choose my trips depending on what appeals to me most. I guess you could say it's to support the team, but really it's for purely selfish reasons in my case, not a sense of duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisLetang View Post
    I know the diehards do. There is a funny GIF of a guy in the front row of the Dodgers game at the World Series the other night watching the last batter with everyone going crazy and he is just all about his Fro-Yo. So some people go to events just to go. Surely you've heard of corporate seats. I don't think you need to go to support a team, per se, or that everyone there is there to support a team, per se.
    Yeah, I'm just going for the Danish prawn sandwiches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisLetang View Post
    I know the diehards do. There is a funny GIF of a guy in the front row of the Dodgers game at the World Series the other night watching the last batter with everyone going crazy and he is just all about his Fro-Yo. So some people go to events just to go. Surely you've heard of corporate seats. I don't think you need to go to support a team, per se, or that everyone there is there to support a team, per se.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Yeah, I'm just going for the Danish prawn sandwiches.
    That's a disgusting combination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisLetang View Post
    Do you guys still like going to events as opposed to watching in a pub or with friends? I can't stand actually going anymore. Lines, rude people, security, traffic, crazy prices, etc...Much rather have a good group over make good food and have a controlled atmosphere...Or maybe I'm just getting old.
    Can't beat the experience and memories. No amount of tv watching will get you close. I appreciate they are rare but the euphoria and buzz amongst fans post game is Cardiff was fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisLetang View Post
    That's a disgusting combination.
    Heh, well, I'm not actually going for Danish prawn sandwiches.

    It was a reference to something Roy Keane once said about the nature of football support in the modern corporate-oriented game.



    Presumably, prawn sandwiches (or something similar) were/are provided to Old Trafford corporate boxes as finger food during games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Heh, well, I'm not actually going for Danish prawn sandwiches.
    Danish prawn sandwiches

    = Danish + prawn




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    Had anyone here bought tickets in the Danish/home section but received an email from the DBU today stating the following?:

    Quote Originally Posted by DBU
    Hello

    We can see that you have bought tickets in a Danish section for the match Denmark vs. Ireland. We suspect that you are an Irish fan, and we have therefore blocked your tickets for the match, as this is a violation of our guidelines.

    If you do not contact us at billetsalg@dbu.dk before Monday 6 November at 11 o’clock, your tickets will be cancelled conclusively, and no money will be refunded.

    If you contact us, you must send name, birthdate and address on you and your guests for the match. Therefore, you must bring identification to the match, as this will be controlled by the entrance. It is important that this corresponds with the information you send to us.

    Please provide your telephone number so that we can contact you.
    It's not something I've received myself, but I saw a few posters mention it on YBIG.

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    Sounds like bull****.

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