who's gonna pay dolan off. thoought there was no money there
If he was sacked for gross miss-behavior I don't think he needs to be payed off.
Ps. Best of luck Pat. Put it this way lennox had the vision to bring him here, so I am trusting Brian that he has made the right move, but in saying that if results were good enough i hate seeing managers get sacked for other reasons.
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Ha ha good to see you back Dodge...Originally Posted by Dodge
Does this mean I'm allowed post again?
It's only just begun...............
If the last 21 years were class, here's looking forward to the next 21 years. It is our time
Welcome back, Dodge.Does this mean I'm allowed post again?
Have Boot Disk, will travel
his contract was up at the end of this season. if he didnt deliver what he promised, then there'd be a just footbaling case for his dismissal.
part of the reason dolan was sacked was because he wanted new players, the new manager will get maybe 1 free signing as a PR stunt.On the plus side, all City's players are under contract and with all new managers comes new players and new ideas so maybe a few positives to look forward to??
meanwhile the players are under contract but the last thing we need is half-arsed players just waiting for the transfer window.
we've got to look forward, but theres no disguising that this was a travesty.Depends which way you look at the situation I suppose, half full- half empty scenario. I think it's a chance for City to build on what Pat has helped put in place and take it to the next level.
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Gavin
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"Ex Bardus , Vicis"
Players, Managers (and even Chairmen) come & go but the club will remain.
Generally rumours about the club are mostly true. I think we can only assume most of the allegations about Dolan & the training facilities & players statements are correct.
Based on these assumptions IMO Brian Lennox had no option but to take the action he did. Dolan wasn't likely to leave the matter as was & would have been expected to comment further as the season progressed.
Just as Lennox didn't allow players hold the club to ransom in contract negotiations he didn't allow the Manager take the club for a ride either.
From what i've observed Lennox seems to put the club (and its future) first on all matters.
exactly how i see it to pete
Brian has nothing but the clubs interests at heart
life is random
Wonder how long it will take for stories to appear from Dolan crucifying Lennox and the way the club is run??
If we look back to when Pat was signed, the genral consensus was that Pat was a great signing as long as control of money was not his remit, management of the team was his job.
Pat's fans came on saying he'll send you broke, we mostly retorted with, if that starts to happen Brian will stop him.
Good to see some things that Pat did, I wish him the best of luck with another club, long term future of the club is the key thing, club in debit so early in the life of Brian not a good think. The Boss did what had to be done.
It's only just begun...............
If the last 21 years were class, here's looking forward to the next 21 years. It is our time
Heh, now that's what I call preemptive...
Surely I should get the award for being "Preemptive"?
Dolan Out!
Have Boot Disk, will travel
its a pity many people are blinded by anger and can't see that
its a pity less people are blinded by a strange belief that brian lennox is indeed jesus christ our saviour himself.
Your Chairperson,
Gavin
Membership Advisory Board
"Ex Bardus , Vicis"
who's that then?
Surprised this wasn't posted earlier.
Dolan sacked by Cork City
[size=1]02/03/2005 - 00:04:13[/size]
[size=2]Pat Dolan has been sacked as manager of Cork City after a turbulent week for the club.
Dolan, who guided Cork City to second place in the Eircom League last season, was fired by Cork chairman Brian Lennox on Tuesday evening because of what was fast becoming an unworkable relationship between the two.
The matter reached a head this week after a number of players publicly criticised training facilities in Cork and despite Lennox’s attempts, he could not contact Dolan in order to try and improve the situation.
Dolan failed to turn up at a meeting with the club chairman last Thursday, nor make contact over the last number of days, forcing the hand of the club’s board.
Neither Lennox, Dolan or any other Cork official were available for comment though it is understood that the Cork board believed that sacking Dolan was the only possible action in the circumstances.
According to Cork City’s official website, U-21 coach Stuart Ashton, assisted by Paul Bowdren, is to take temporary charge of the senior squad.
The club hope to have a new manager in place next week.[/size]
City definetly have the best bands playing at half-time.
O'Bama - "Eerah yeah, I'd say we can alright!"
G.O'Mahoney Trapattoni'll sort ém out!!
That alone would get you sacked in many jobs. He had to have known it was comming really. Im guessing that he knew it was comming and tryed to get some sympathetic PR out of it. Wait for "Ive got so much passion for Cork, Cork City and Cork CityFC, its the best place in the world and all I wanted to do was to bring the Champions League to Turners X, but other people didnt want that and they were affraid to progress but its their club and I can only go along with what they want". He'll forget that someone needs to pay the players, the coaches, the u21,18, 16 teams, travel...The matter reached a head this week after a number of players publicly criticised training facilities in Cork and despite Lennox’s attempts, he could not contact Dolan in order to try and improve the situation.
Dolan failed to turn up at a meeting with the club chairman last Thursday, nor make contact over the last number of days, forcing the hand of the club’s board.
As I say, we're just young & a bit nieve.
Thats pretty much my thinking Troy. Dolan not turning up to the meeting was probably the final straw.
From the Irish Times
That last bit cought me there, he's a bit of a Maggie Tatcher of a manager isnt he?Dolan is a surprise pre-season casualty
Emmet Malone
Cork City's preparations for the new season were thrown into turmoil last night when manager Pat Dolan was sacked by club chairman Brian Lennox just two weeks before the start of the new season.
It had long been known that the pair enjoyed a difficult relationship, which further deteriorated last week in the wake of complaints by prominent members of the squad regarding the state of the training facilities being used in recent weeks.
The difficulties arose in the middle of last week when John O'Flynn and Joe Gamble both publicly expressed their unhappiness over the state of a school GAA pitch that had been used for training. Gamble likened the field to a "cabbage patch" and Lennox reacted angrily to the comments, describing them as "excuses" and stating that he would prefer if his team concentrated on "winning things for a change".
Dolan is said to have made efforts to resolve matters when he, Lennox and the players met on Friday morning but there were reports of further difficulties, which it seems culminated in last night's dramatic training ground dismissal.
It is a major blow for the manager who took over at Turner's Cross just under two years ago and led City to third and second place respectively during his two seasons in charge. The club finished just three points behind Shelbourne last November thanks to a late season surge in form.
City's lack of consistency earlier in the campaign, however, meant that crowds for home games - a huge source of income for what is a very well supported club in good times - dropped significantly. Early in the summer there had been the bonus of a good European run with Dolan guiding the side to the quarter-finals of the Inter-Toto cup but that, too, sparked problems between the manager and his chairman with Lennox complaining about the number of players who had little or no chance of featuring in games who were still being brought on away trips.
Lennox was also publicly critical about the size of Dolan's first team squad and the amount it was costing to maintain. Last season he insisted on cuts being made and a number of players were allowed to leave the club. The financial restraints continued through the close season. While Shelbourne made a series of high profiled signing, including Glen Crowe, Colin Hawkins and Bobby Ryan, Dolan had not yet recruited any new players.
Dolan's high spending was also a feature of his time at St Patrick's Athletic, but players who have worked with him have generally praised him for the professional way in which he manages team affairs. At Inchicore he also brought considerable success although his departure was followed by a financial crisis with many of the league winning team he had assembled departing.
His outspoken style and regular spats with rivals and administrators at other clubs may limit his future employment offers, particularly with the country's biggest clubs. However, it is hard to imagine that he won't be back sooner rather than later. Even before last night's events, as it happens, he had been linked with a move to Limerick where, it was reported, he would have had a role in both the playing and administrative side of things. City, who will face a claim for the year Dolan had left on his contract, will have to name his replacement quickly if they are to avoid pre-season difficulties.
Id rather be consistantly good with a chance of winning the league (say between 4th and 2nd) then 'boom and bust' like Pats (or Hibs)
As I say, we're just young & a bit nieve.
Well, when he went to City from Limerick he left us two weeks before the start of the season. So he "has form". This time he seems to have a stake in teh club so I think you can rule him out biys.
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