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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    thats brilliant
    Obviously ~ A very observant manager.

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    In contention to feature against Swansea this weekend
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    Not in the squad for tonight's game at Coventry, unlike McLaughlin and Christie.

    "Other than Anass, I've got a fully fit squad and it's hard to pick a bench and that's just that's where I'm at. I make those decisions based on performances in training, based on the opposition and Noah (Ohio) comes right back into my thinking, and in terms of Aaron, it's exactly the same. Training is that good that there's certain players that are training so well, that it's impossible to leave them out.


    "I'm really fortunate with this group, training consistently is very, very good. Adama Traore has been banging on the door in training for a long time, Doc (Greg Docherty) is always training really well, Cyrus (Christie) is training great........... " (Liam Rosenior, quoted in Hull Live, 22 April).

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    Released by Hull.

    No idea what's gone wrong since that injury against Norwich - can we assume he wasn't taking his recovery all that seriously?

    Looks like he had a manager prepared to give him a chance and may have wasted it - quid nunc? Possibly see where Rosenior ends up? But even then he wasn't giving him a game for the second half of the season.

    You wonder how close we are to having to write him off...

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    Based on the first half of the season you'd have said he was a cert to get a long contract at Hull. Then he got clobbered by Angus Gunn against Norwich and it all went wrong from there.


    Rosenior is a wanted man for a few Championship jobs. No guarantee that he signs him again though, it does seem like he was happy to release him at Hull before he was sacked himself. Still wouldn't be surprised if he got an offer from down the bottom end of the Championship. If not then you're looking at League 1, Scotland (but not Celtic, though he'd probably score a few for them), or another trip further afield. But clubs will look at his recent pattern of loans and transfers and will tread carefully - if he gets a Championship team he'll be looking at a 1 year deal again I'd say.

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    It's a bit worrying that he hasn't found a club yet. Anyone hear anything like if he's been in training with a club or on trial somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckett View Post
    It's a bit worrying that he hasn't found a club yet. Anyone hear anything like if he's been in training with a club or on trial somewhere?
    Crawley Town was the early rumour but no announcement.

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    Living the high life at Wimbledon judging by his social media (the tennis ground, not the football club). May have to drop below the Championship this time if he wants to stay in England, a lot of teams will see the baggage and look elsewhere. But someone will see the goals and take a punt eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Living the high life at Wimbledon judging by his social media (the tennis ground, not the football club). May have to drop below the Championship this time if he wants to stay in England, a lot of teams will see the baggage and look elsewhere. But someone will see the goals and take a punt eventually.
    American football maybe ~ ~ Can he punt ? !

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Can he punt ? !
    I wouldn't say so, no.
    He can probably rhyme with it though.

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    He’s the perfect example of not having the right attitude.
    He could do very well for a championship team but, as mentioned above, his attitude and history will turn managers off.
    Talented boy. Bad attitude. Next!

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    Any chance he could get in to the ~ Male modelling business ? !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixer82 View Post
    He’s the perfect example of not having the right attitude.
    He could do very well for a championship team but, as mentioned above, his attitude and history will turn managers off.
    Talented boy. Bad attitude. Next!
    More of a talented boy who didn't receive the right mentoring. PL football academies chew up and spit out hundreds of talented boys on a yearly basis - the emphasis is on who can they make a profit from, not how can they nurture and develop talent while helping the kid to become a well rounded individual. While Brighton are one of the better run academies in terms of developing players, they are still part of the 'system' and Connolly was only 14 when he joined Brighton. He was fast-tracked into the U23 side and made his debut for the first team when he was 17. By 19 he had a three and a half year contract worth something like £8k a week. Now - Connolly clearly wasn't able to handle the money and the 'fame' of being a PL footballer - he was a kid who clearly lacked the maturity and the support to be able to handle what he was dealing with. Football doesn't develop human beings, it develops lines on a balance sheet - and on the balance sheet Connolly probably panned out as break even or a slight loss for Brighton - for Connolly, his talent is probably wasted at this stage and at 24 years of age he clearly still lacks the maturity needed to handle the environment in which he operates.

    There are so many talented kids who are chewed up and spat out by football clubs that end up so disillusioned that they stop playing altogether by the time they are in their mid-20s - and it is an absolute shame to think what they could have contributed to the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant View Post
    More of a talented boy who didn't receive the right mentoring. PL football academies chew up and spit out hundreds of talented boys on a yearly basis - the emphasis is on who can they make a profit from, not how can they nurture and develop talent while helping the kid to become a well rounded individual. While Brighton are one of the better run academies in terms of developing players, they are still part of the 'system' and Connolly was only 14 when he joined Brighton. He was fast-tracked into the U23 side and made his debut for the first team when he was 17. By 19 he had a three and a half year contract worth something like £8k a week. Now - Connolly clearly wasn't able to handle the money and the 'fame' of being a PL footballer - he was a kid who clearly lacked the maturity and the support to be able to handle what he was dealing with. Football doesn't develop human beings, it develops lines on a balance sheet - and on the balance sheet Connolly probably panned out as break even or a slight loss for Brighton - for Connolly, his talent is probably wasted at this stage and at 24 years of age he clearly still lacks the maturity needed to handle the environment in which he operates.

    There are so many talented kids who are chewed up and spat out by football clubs that end up so disillusioned that they stop playing altogether by the time they are in their mid-20s - and it is an absolute shame to think what they could have contributed to the game.
    What if you just can't get some of these guys to " handle it " ~ ~ No matter what you do ? !

    For instance that Man Utd wonder kid ( his name escapes me for now ~ Marvel something or other )

    Maybe some of them just will never be able to handle it ~ ~ After-all , handling it is a huge part of it !

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    What if you just can't get some of these guys to " handle it " ~ ~ No matter what you do ? !

    For instance that Man Utd wonder kid ( his name escapes me for now ~ Marvel something or other )

    Maybe some of them just will never be able to handle it ~ ~ After-all , handling it is a huge part of it !
    Ravel Morrison?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    Ravel Morrison?
    Un-believable talent ~ Just not cut out to be a professional footballer at a big club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    What if you just can't get some of these guys to " handle it " ~ ~ No matter what you do ? !

    For instance that Man Utd wonder kid ( his name escapes me for now ~ Marvel something or other )

    Maybe some of them just will never be able to handle it ~ ~ After-all , handling it is a huge part of it !
    Some will never handle it - for a variety of reasons - but the overriding issue is the structure of football and how it treats kids - not the kids themselves. They are put through a meat grinder.

    Liam Brady pointed out on numerous occasions that when he, Stapleton and O'Leary went to Arsenal, Johnny Moloney was part of the quartet. Brady said that Moloney was by far the most talented of the four of them - but he couldn't handle living in London and the treatment dished out by the coaches - he was back in Dublin within a year. In Dublin, with his family for support, Moloney went on to have a very good rugby career - but he couldn't handle being a kid at Arsenal, no matter what.

    I don't know what the stats are for PL footballers - but the statistics for NFL and NBA players is horrific. Four out of every five NFL players and three out of five NBA players go bankrupt within five years of retirement. The more a sport becomes about the money rather than the players and the fans, the more it impacts on negative outcomes.

    N.B. - just found an article from the Daily Mail (I know, pinch of salt) - that says 40% of PL footballers go bankrupt within five years of retirement and an even bigger percentage struggle financially in later life - that is the scale of those who succeed as footballers not being able to handle what happens to them.

    FIFPRO - the world players union - says that 38% of active players experience symptoms of depression and 5% have experienced suicidal ideation. Many others are addicted to painkillers and/or sleeping pills (a much higher percentage than in the general population). Gambling is also a massive problem for professional footballers - it replaces the high they get from scoring a goal or winning a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant View Post
    More of a talented boy who didn't receive the right mentoring. PL football academies chew up and spit out hundreds of talented boys on a yearly basis - the emphasis is on who can they make a profit from, not how can they nurture and develop talent while helping the kid to become a well rounded individual. While Brighton are one of the better run academies in terms of developing players, they are still part of the 'system' and Connolly was only 14 when he joined Brighton. He was fast-tracked into the U23 side and made his debut for the first team when he was 17. By 19 he had a three and a half year contract worth something like £8k a week. Now - Connolly clearly wasn't able to handle the money and the 'fame' of being a PL footballer - he was a kid who clearly lacked the maturity and the support to be able to handle what he was dealing with. Football doesn't develop human beings, it develops lines on a balance sheet - and on the balance sheet Connolly probably panned out as break even or a slight loss for Brighton - for Connolly, his talent is probably wasted at this stage and at 24 years of age he clearly still lacks the maturity needed to handle the environment in which he operates.

    There are so many talented kids who are chewed up and spat out by football clubs that end up so disillusioned that they stop playing altogether by the time they are in their mid-20s - and it is an absolute shame to think what they could have contributed to the game.
    You must know the lad well to he able to opine so definitively on his lack of maturity.

    I don't know enough to be able to speak confidently. But neither do you I would guess.

    He was going very well last season until an unfortunate injury. He has left Hull with the manager and plenty others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant View Post
    Some will never handle it - for a variety of reasons - but the overriding issue is the structure of football and how it treats kids - not the kids themselves. They are put through a meat grinder.

    Liam Brady pointed out on numerous occasions that when he, Stapleton and O'Leary went to Arsenal, Johnny Moloney was part of the quartet. Brady said that Moloney was by far the most talented of the four of them - but he couldn't handle living in London and the treatment dished out by the coaches - he was back in Dublin within a year. In Dublin, with his family for support, Moloney went on to have a very good rugby career - but he couldn't handle being a kid at Arsenal, no matter what.

    I don't know what the stats are for PL footballers - but the statistics for NFL and NBA players is horrific. Four out of every five NFL players and three out of five NBA players go bankrupt within five years of retirement. The more a sport becomes about the money rather than the players and the fans, the more it impacts on negative outcomes.

    N.B. - just found an article from the Daily Mail (I know, pinch of salt) - that says 40% of PL footballers go bankrupt within five years of retirement and an even bigger percentage struggle financially in later life - that is the scale of those who succeed as footballers not being able to handle what happens to them.

    FIFPRO - the world players union - says that 38% of active players experience symptoms of depression and 5% have experienced suicidal ideation. Many others are addicted to painkillers and/or sleeping pills (a much higher percentage than in the general population). Gambling is also a massive problem for professional footballers - it replaces the high they get from scoring a goal or winning a game.
    Put you off being a fan of soccer to be honest when you get to know about that sort of reality.

    I can remember Johnny Maloney playing for Ireland in the rugby ~ ~ Excellent scrum-half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    You must know the lad well to he able to opine so definitively on his lack of maturity.
    Seriously - you don't have to be a therapist to recognise a lack of maturity in relation to Connolly.

    Now - he seemed to have turned the corner a bit at Hull - clearly Rosenior knew how to handle him - but I am worried that not getting a new contract there will impact him and Rosenior hasn't got a new job yet (Plymouth for some reason went for Rooney instead). I wish Connolly all the best and hope he can get a proper grip on things - he is a talented footballer who could have a good career if his head is in the right place.

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