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    Watching Arsenal getting messed around by Man City for the second time in a week. Empty seats (might be the weather though!). Ozil is so bad it's just astonishing to think he was being linked with teams higher in the table only a month ago. Will Wenger last the season? There's been plenty of "This has to be it" moments with Arsenal (that Munich tie last year, I thought that was the end) , but this really has to be it, right?

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    I think for himself, as much as for Arsenal this has to stop now. He isn't going to get his arms around this thing again, its gone from him. Let it go.

    Hard to watch someone who was so progressive, innovative etc, and one of a very small few who could put it up to Ferguson's Man U reign, ending up like this.

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    Goal of the season contender for Vardy today. Ball over the top from Mahrez from around halfway, dropped over the defender on the edge of the area and he hit it first time, before it bounced, with his weaker foot, into the bottom corner. As Alan Shearer would say, sensational.
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    Honestly had no idea how rancorous things had gotten at West Ham. Watching the owners being escorted away on MOTD highlights was remarkable, and then the Burnley players letting kids sit in their seats to get away from crowd trouble?
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    Southampton sack Pellegrino. That's the 9th EPL manager this season. Think the record is 11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Southampton sack Pellegrino.
    Any number of water puns come to mind but I'll leave it with he just didn't have the bottle.
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    Wenger announces he will leave at the end of the season. Out of curiosity, I had a look at EPL season he started. Some almost ancient history there is terms of managers and outcomes. You had Ruud Gullit at Chelsea who won the FA Cup, Martin O'Neill at Leicester who won the League Cup, Joe Kinnear at Wimbledon, Aston Villa captained by Andy Townshend and, of course, Fergie, who won the league with the lowest points total of any champion ever (75). That was also the season Middleborough spent big, lost two cup finals, and were relegated due to a points deduction for cancelling a game where their entire squad was ill or injured!
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    Wonder where he'll go. Much in demand I suspect. PSG ?
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    One of his legacies for me at least will be his tirades against decisions which went against his team and how "I didn't see it" was his response for any decisions which favoured Arsenal. They became so tiresome and Klopp is going this way as well.
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    Klopp's comments at the weekend were bizarre. Blaming the pitch is one thing, but then giving out that it was a "wasted" point for West Brom because they'll inevitably end up being relegated anyway?

    I still think things will blow-up for Klopp eventually. He hasn't won a trophy in six years, neither have Liverpool. Obviously the CPL is still a possibility, but if they get past Roma you'd fancy Real or Bayern against them. It's all well and good banging in the goals on occasion and playing football the media fawn over, but without something to back it up, the worm turns: you can see people starting to turn on Pochettino for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    One of his legacies for me at least will be his tirades against decisions which went against his team and how "I didn't see it" was his response for any decisions which favoured Arsenal. They became so tiresome and Klopp is going this way as well.
    Well it didn't make it into The Examiner's top ten! They did tend to focus on the positives though bar number ten - https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...ry-469715.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    I still think things will blow-up for Klopp eventually. He hasn't won a trophy in six years, neither have Liverpool. Obviously the CPL is still a possibility, but if they get past Roma you'd fancy Real or Bayern against them. It's all well and good banging in the goals on occasion and playing football the media fawn over, but without something to back it up, the worm turns: you can see people starting to turn on Pochettino for example.
    Yes, turning on Pochettino because bringing Spurs from a Europa League team to a Champions League team simply isn't enough, they have to back it up by winning trophies it seems. In fairness, I doubt the vast majority of Spurs fans see it that way, yet at least. They've probably been the best PL team over the last three seasons, consistency wise, unfortunately for them they haven't been the best over any of those seasons individually.

    I think this CL run, regardless of how it ends, will keep Klopp in the good books for a long time. They've gone from struggling to even qualify for the competition for most of the past decade to dreaming about winning it again. They could easily win a one off game against Bayern or Real too, especially Bayern. Hopefully not though. Keeping Salah long-term is already starting to look like mission impossible, if the Suarez/Coutinho sales are anything to go by. On the plus side, he must be worth 200m+ in the current market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    Keeping Salah long-term is already starting to look like mission impossible, if the Suarez/Coutinho sales are anything to go by. On the plus side, he must be worth 200m+ in the current market.
    Yes, but what is the point really for what used to be one of the biggest clubs in Europe if they have to keep selling their best players to Barcelona once they show an interest, other than making money for the shareholders of course, if they can't build on success ?

    Enjoyable game but I did channel surf over to Derby v Cardiff on occasion and got my wish in seeing Derby score 2 goals and Warnock's team lose. Then went back to Liverpool to see Roma score their second goal. Fun...
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    I watched the second half of the Championship game myself. Hopefully Fulham can pip Cardiff, they will need to drop points at Hull this weekend for that to happen I think.

    Agree completely about Liverpool selling their stars. It will depend mainly on Salah himself I guess, if he wants out, he'll get out.

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    Team..........P GD Pts

    Wolves.......44 46 98
    Cardiff....... 44 28 86
    Fulham...... 44 34 85
    Aston Villa.. 44 31 82
    Middlesbro.. 44 20 72
    Derby.........44 19 71

    Other than Cardiff, the rest were reasonably predictable. Might have expected Sunderland to have been in the mix. Amazing how most of these clubs which drop out of "richest league in the world" usually do so deep in debt,
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    I was sure Coleman would drag them out of the mire, but he seems to be just another in a long-list of short-term managers who can't get things working there.
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    If you don't bounce back straight away, it become more difficult as time goes on as the parachute payments disappear Wednesday are now 18 years out of the top flight and still a long way off. Villa need to get back this season but to use the cliche, the play-offs are a lottery. It says a lot for the standard of the EPL, outside the money bags teams, that clubs like recently promoted Huddersfield and Brighton look as if they're going to stay up and previously clubs like Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley and Swansea have stuck.
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    Alex Ferguson is rushed to hospital: first item on RTE News! That the Scottish Manager of an English football team is admitted to hospital is deemed worthy of pride of place on the Irish news to me is bizarre.
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    The three promoted teams stay up. Says a lot really about the standard of the EPL outside perhaps the top 6. The Championship is a mini EPL with many clubs there having more top flight experience than a fair few of the EPL clubs. Have to hand it to Huddersfield. Drawing away to both Chelsea AND Man City to secure their place next season. Swansea on a run of winless games and drawing blanks: quelle surprise, their manager is the ex-Wednesday manager who was let go because of a winless streak and drawing blanks
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    Another payday for Big Bung Sam as Everton give him his walking papers https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44136661 Everton look like a club perpetually underachieving. They seem to have been happy to coast along under Moyes with top 10 finishes and it's even slipped a bit since then. They are a big enough club to be competing with the likes of Arsenal and Spurs but it just hasn't happened.
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