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Thread: FAI charge members of Athlone Town over match fixing

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    There could be a criminal aspect to this if there is a Garda investigation into the alleged match-fixing, whilst there could also be a separate civil aspect to it if the two players fail in any appeal they make against the FAI to CAS and seek redress (along deprivation of livelihood lines) from an ordinary court of law. If the players were found guilty of criminal activity by a court of law, however, I'd imagine the chances of them obtaining a civil remedy would be virtually nil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    The descriptions of the prosecution (and these have all come from the defence so are not unbiased) indicate that the red flags were not brought into it much but that it focussed on just the lead up to specific goals. That might be unfair though, and I doubt the FAI can come out and correct the record even if it's wrong. The whole thing is an unholy mess. Would fully support a Garda investigation being launched. Not sure what the laws are around match fixing though.
    Some info on that and past Irish cases discussed here, particularly on pages 96 and 97: https://books.google.ie/books?id=X7G...page&q&f=false

    Here's a section on the applicable existing laws:


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    Athlone's Jason Lyons now banned for 7 matches for placing bets on fixtures he was not involved in

    https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football...seven-matches/
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    Presumably this was the €34.08 referred to by the club.

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    His total stake in his bets was €8 Half the players in the league could be suspended at this rate.
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    It's just come out in the sun he in fact bet on 3 matches he was invovlved in. Disgracefully short ban if that's the case

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    Will you get up the yard ffs.

    How much money was staked and on what outcome??

    No coincidence athlone and bray are at the centre of this.

    Disgrace indeed....

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    He deserves the ban for stupidity but I agree that he wasn't trying to do anything particularly dishonest.
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    In a number of instances, the 22 year-old, who placed what were small wagers on accumulators, bets involving multiple matches, was found to have bet on games in which he was involved, including one in which he captained the team. There was, however, no suggestion that he tried to improperly influence the outcome of the games.
    Full story: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...medium=twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Any player dumb enough to include games he is involved in in a bet deserves all he gets.
    Idiot. Surprised he got such a short ban.

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    How is it only 7 games!?

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    I think it's fair to assume from Lyons' punishment that the penalty for merely betting on games (without trying to improperly manipulate results) is a lot less severe than the penalty for match-fixing.

    Is it not odd though that Lyons was found guilty of just the former despite the fact he had played in three of the seven games on which he'd placed bets? Considering he wasn't found guilty of match-fixing, is it also fair to assume then that he had bet on Athlone to win those three games? All players are expected to try and win every game in which they participate anyway, so betting on your team to win obviously wouldn't alter that presumed intention or objective. Had he bet on his club to draw or lose those games though, might he now be facing a sterner penalty (because that would surely be evidence of an incentive to throw the games)? Or is it possible that he did bet on such outcomes but a panel reviewed footage and determined that there was nothing suspicious about the way he played in those games? Surely that's unlikely.

    I'm assuming the amount of money involved would also influence the severity of punishment? Lyons placed small wagers on accumulators, but would he have received a longer ban had greater sums of money been involved?

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    Taken from another thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado View Post
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/i...nzkn77f8x?t=ie

    A First Division match in the League of Ireland is attracting up to €650,000 in bets on global exchanges, an inquiry into alleged match-fixing has been told.
    While First Division games attract average crowds of less than 500, they are attracting huge interest from overseas gamblers, mainly in Asia. Details of the vast sums being wagered on second-tier Irish football were revealed at the Football Association of Ireland’s (FAI) internal disciplinary hearing into two Athlone Town players who have been banned for 12 months for match fixing.
    Games in both the Premier Division and First Division of the SSE Airtricity League are being streamed on international betting websites following a 2015 deal between the FAI and Trackchamp. The four-year contract is said to be worth €120,000 a year.
    The Irish Premier Division attracts an average of €2.5m bets per match, while the average attendance was just under 1,500 per game last season. By contrast a Premier League match in England attracts an average of €203m in wagers, while a Pro14 rugby game attracts €1.2m. A GAA match would draw just €50,000 in bets globally per game because of low understanding of the rules.
    Evidence about betting on Irish league games was given to the disciplinary hearing by Sportradar, a betting analytics firm which has contracts with Fifa and Uefa. Alex Inglot, its director of communications, said an average of €650,000 in wagers on a First Division Irish football game was tracked globally by Sportradar. He said Asia was typically the source of more than 70% of these bets.
    “It stands to reason that if you start offering streams and coverage on a global level, where it wasn’t global before, then you will see more engagement in that sport, and that will be heavily tied to interests in betting,” said Inglot.

    “If you have a stream to view a sport, you feel more engaged in it and more likely to bet.”
    Uefa alerted the FAI to “overwhelming betting evidence” that an Athlone Town match with Longford Town last April “was unduly influenced with a view to gaining corrupt betting profits”.
    Igors Labuts, a Latvian goalkeeper, and Dragos Sfrijan, a Romanian midfielder, both of Athlone, were found guilty of match-fixing. The Professional Footballers’ Association of Ireland (PFAI) insists the players are innocent and says it will bring the case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne, Switzerland, if necessary.
    At the hearings, the players were asked about their earnings from Athlone, which had an average crowd of below 200 at games last year. They said they received only accommodation and food from the club. The disciplinary panel considered this as one of the three key strands of evidence on which its guilty verdict was based.
    Athlone Town was notified of a new charge against it by the FAI last week over a statement criticising the verdict. The club now faces a charge of bringing the game into disrepute through its statement.
    Last week a third Athlone Town player, Jason Lyons, was banned by the FAI for seven fixtures for betting on League of Ireland games, including three in which he played.
    The PFAI has said the FAI should never have signed the deal with Trackchamp. While the English FA recently cut its ties with Ladbrokes, its “official bookmaker” sponsor which was paying it £4m (€4.5m) a year, the FAI signed a new deal with the bookmaker last September.
    The FAI declined to comment last week.
    In a written submission to the disciplinary hearing into Labuts and Sfrijan, Damien Richardson, an RTE pundit and former club manager, revealed he had been approached to advise an Asian betting syndicate when he was Cork City manager in 2006. Richardson said he took a phone call from what he was first told was an Asian radio station. The person then admitted to being from a betting syndicate and asked Richardson for his opinion on games taking place that weekend. He then offered Richardson a paid role as an adviser to the syndicate.
    Richardson hung up and said he thought no more of the incident before he was asked to given an expert opinion in the Athlone case.
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    As an Athlone Town AFC supporter I have been bereft of football this year as a result of staying away from the ground as an act of protest against the current regime running the club. It has been so bad I have actually tuned in to watch English Football, something which I only have a very fleeting interest in. I feel my actions as an Athlone supporter for almost 40 years have been justified by revelations that players from the club have been found guilty of serious offenses within the game. A number of Athlone's followers, advertisers and spectators have been unjustly subjected to the Chairman's negative verbals, which in my opinion, have had a consistent theme of being threatening in nature if you disagree with his stance. However Mr. Hayden let the club's written statement overstep the mark and the FAI are not happy with these published words revolving around the match fixing issue. In the extreme the FAI could ban this individual and the entire Athlone board from football forever. It is the 2nd year in row for a charge of bringing the game into disrepute has been leveled at the club. Does anyone think a lifetime ban is a possibility? That would mean the agreement with the 'outside investors' would become null and void and Athlone could start afresh. It would act to show the FAI up in 'a good light.' (If that is even possible!)
    One other issue, not discussed here, is the prospect of Athlone players suing the club for lack of due diligence and by it adversely affecting their playing careers because they were at the club when games were fixed.
    Furthermore the club has lost access to a €200,000 grant relating to the creation of an all-weather pitch facility. Is this a final nail in their coffin?
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    Conor Clifford the latest to feel the wrath of betting offences. 6 month ban from October 3rd to April 2nd 2018. Offences were committed in the UK and he's also been fined £600.

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    So a few games this year and a few next year. He’s got a bit lucky there.
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    Wonder do dundalk have to keep paying him ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Wonder do dundalk have to keep paying him ?
    He's out of contract at the end of the season anyway but I'd imagine there would be clauses built in to contracts for this type of eventuality. It's capped a really disappointing season for Clifford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    He's out of contract at the end of the season anyway but I'd imagine there would be clauses built in to contracts for this type of eventuality. It's capped a really disappointing season for Clifford.
    Are you sure. I thought it was a 2 yr deal he signed

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    Almost sure it was one year deal for Clifford. Either way if it was a 2 year deal, (unlikely) easily cancelled now given the recent developments.

    What a total waste of potential talent.
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